Wormald HF105

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:11
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Just wondering if anyone knows anything about these units. I've never heard of Wormald in relation to HF's before. Looking at a 2nd hand unit for $550 with aerial. Apparently it has all 4WD and RFDS frequencies, emergency call button and a service certificate. Input please!

:o) Melissa
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Reply By: Member - Geoff M (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:14

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:14
What happens if you Google for "Wormald HF"?
It may be a rebadged major brand.

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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:27

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:27
not much that is helpful actually
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:41

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:41
Geoff,

I tried a google search which turned up nothing useful. Have since phoned a couple of WA based HF servicers/dealers both of whom advised that Wormald went out of the HF business about 20 yrs ago so the unit is probably between 20-26 years old. Not a problem from a hf point of veiw because there haven't been any real advances in the technology over the years. One company said they thought the Wormalds were actually a rebadged Barrett, the other said they thought it was a Kimberely which was the hf company that Wormald originally bought out. So still a bit confused there.

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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:49

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 16:49
Okay, I've just got off the phone to Barrett. They said it is definitely not one of theirs.

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Reply By: joc45 - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 17:15

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 17:15
The HF105 was made by Perth Communications, which was bought out by Wormalds, tho still called Perth Comms. I think the company was sold on to Codan, who then buried it. Their last model was the HF106, which was programmable (I own one). As I recall, the HF105 channelled with crystals, and can be quite expensive to add/change channels. This may not be an issue if it is already fitted with the channels you want. This unit would be probably at least 15 years old now, and the asking price, IMHO, is a bit high, even with an antenna. An HF106, if you can find one, would go for less than that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:43

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:43
Thanks for that info Gerry. It makes sense as the seller rang a few moments ago with more info and said it had Perth Communications on the unit as well as a service certificate from Outback Comms which is who he bought it off last year. Now I've got a list of frequencies from him I'm trying to find out what they are. Also the frequencies in the unit don't seem to match the ones on the whip aerial. Should they? I'm a complete HF novice in case you haven't already figured that out ;-).

:o) Melissa
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 00:20

Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 00:20
Melissa,
the frequencies on the antenna must match those in the radio if you are to transmit on that frequency. There is a small variance allowable; eg, an antenna tap marked at say 5300khz will operate with tx's from about 5250-5350khz satisfactorily. Adding or changing frequency taps can be done, but is expensive. Similarly, adding channels to the radio can be expensive, as a separate crystal has to be purchased for each channel and the radio aligned.
Check out http://www.vks737.on.net/ for the 4wd net frequencies, similarly check out http://www.flyingdoctor.net/hfradio.htm for RFDS frequencies. Bear in mind that the 4wd net frequencies are probably the most useful for a traveller, 8022khz will probably do most of what you want, providing excellent day-time coverage from their range of bases across Aust.
If an antenna is provided, make sure that includes the spring base, as these also are not cheap.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 20:05

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 20:05
we have problems trying to get stuff like satphones fixed coz they are always becoming obselete. My advice would be to go codan or barret as even obselete parts can be sourced. while HFs seem to be pretty reliable if something goes wrong it well could be a throwaway job. Having said that you now have all the info you need to bargain them right down as it is obselete with little chance of parts for 2 or 3 hundred it would be worth it (if it works A1 in the first place)
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 20:22

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 20:22
goodday melissa
what type of aerial its probably worth more than radio as a 13 tap is about $250

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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:40

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:40
Hi Steve,

Just got a bit more info from the seller. The aerial is a whip type with 8 holes (or are these what you refer to as taps?). I'm a complete HF novice so although the seller gave me the 8 frequencies that were listed beside each tap(?) I don't know what these are or when you should change over. Also, these frequencies don't correspond with the 11 frequencies in the unit itself. Should they??? If not, does these mean the aerial and unit aren't tuned? Based on what I've learned today we should steer clear of it if this is the case.

:o) Melissa
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 06:05

Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 06:05
goodday melissa
just read your final post before typing this
also have a look on ebay bought my old codan set about $700 or look up some of the radio places on the net including vks 737 as most have 2nd hand sets for sale

steve
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:48

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:48
Melissa,

We sold a Codan 7727B, to a contractor about 18 months ago. Included a cradle, power lead(like hen's teeth for this model), and spring base, but no whip.

He was happy to pay about $350. As mentioned above, the crystals for each frequency, are what cost a lot. Used to be about $100 each. This radio included all ten channels, though he was going to have some swapped over from another HF. Doubt if any HF of that age(Wormald) would be worth more than $500.

Pity you're in WA, we've got 2 Codans that we rarely use, could have made a deal.

The Codan X-2 is a good compact HF, 10 channels, which have frequencies programmed by the dealer. No need to have crystals fitted.

Trust you get something suitable, Melissa.

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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:59

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 22:59
Hi Bob,

Might be in WA but would still be willing to talk turkey ;-) re the Codan. My family is in Vic so perhaps I could arrange something. I'll be over later in the year myself. I've just member messaged you my email address. Like to hear from if you're interested.

:o) Melissa
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 23:20

Thursday, Jan 20, 2005 at 23:20
Thanks for your help everyone. I obtained a list of the "set-up" frequencies from the seller and realise that although the unit does have RFDS frequencies, it doesn't have the VKS737 which of course is what we want so it's a no goer. However, it's been an interesting exercise and I've learnt some stuff about HF along the way.

:o) Melissa
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 17:55

Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 17:55
for future reference the plugs are taps and should have frequencies or numbers by each tap. They should corrospond with the channel frequencies eg channel 1 is 6990 to use channel 1 you would push channel one on the hf then jump out and plug the wire into the ariel to the frequency or channel number that corrosponds. They are a good option if you dont use heaps of channels coz they are cheap (compared to autotune) and can be pulled off in seconds for bushwork
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