Another Gas Bottle Question?
Submitted: Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:33
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Member - Craig M (NSW)
OK, Now I cant store a spare gas bottle inside the beast, so the question is:
Can I store a gas bottle lying down?
As the only other possy I have left for a spare is on the front luggage area on the roof, but I think it would have to lay down.
Cheers
Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 14:38
Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 14:38
Craig
Why don't you get a length of hose with a gas thread one end to screw into the gas bottle outlet and positively vent the other end to the outside of the vehicle through a penetration in the outside skin of the vehicle.
Then you could have the gas bottle in a cradle in the vehicle with the stop cock firmly turned off and the hose to the outside atmosphere to vent any gas that may escape from a stopcock malfunction.
I'm not suggesting that this hose be able to be connected to an appliance outside the vehicle.
You would still remove it when you get to site & want to set up appliances.
This is all predicated on whether it is permissible to have a gas bottle in the vehicle.
Regards
John
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Follow Up By: phil - Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 16:33
Friday, Jan 21, 2005 at 16:33
Hi,
The problem with this, and the reason for storing upright is the possibility of the safety valve blowing if the cylinder is exposed to excessive heat and/or overfilled. In this case there will be a lot of gas released. If the cylinder is on its side it will be liquid that is released.
Phil I
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Reply By: Member - muzzgit - Saturday, Jan 22, 2005 at 01:26
Saturday, Jan 22, 2005 at 01:26
In a reply to your question, some-one stated that LPG for cars, and gas for cookers and bbq is different.
Just in case, I thought I'd let you know that this is not true.
We had a service station down the road (gone now) and when the truck filled up the LPG tank for the gas powered cars, he then took the same hose, put on an adaptor and filled up the gas tank for filling bbq bottles.
The reason we are told differently, is so that people don't try to fill their own bottles and blow themselves up. And also, they get to slug us about ten times as much !!
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Saturday, Jan 22, 2005 at 18:53
Saturday, Jan 22, 2005 at 18:53
This is absolutely NOT true. In Victoria it is ILLEGAL to fill a BBQ gas bottle from a car LPG system.
I used to OWN a petrol station. The reason that your local filled the BBQ bottles from the LPG tanker is cost. Service stations pay much less for the gas that goes in to cars than that for BBQ bottles.
I repeat.. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
Office of Gas Safety
Do not use automotive LPG in a BBQ. The butane boils off first and burns a fair bit hotter than the propane which boils off later. And BBQs are jetted and adjusted to burn propane proerly and the mixture is all wrong when butane is in the bottle which can lead to hotter flame and/or extremely high amounts of toxic (Carbon monoxide) fumes being given off.
Peter
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