birdsville races

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
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Not a question ,just an observation,, we did the races this year,,b/ville a great place ,however ,,we will not do the races or race week ever again,,we apreciate that the local populace does all it can to accomodate the huge influx of people ,but standing and waiting foran average of 1 1/2 hrs for a shower , then same for toilet ,,6am 1hr wait for a wash basin ,takes away a great deal of enjoyment ,, on the thursday the sign was up to say the c/van park was full ,,by 6pm another4 tents surrounded our small area to the extent that it was tent peg on tent peg,,,,,, water,,TAPS PADLOCKED,,,birdsville races NEVER again,..
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Reply By: Bob - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
Sorry to hear of your experience Axel and Karen. It's a pity you hadn't done your homework before going as I think it's commonly known that the Birdsville population swells from very few to thousands for the races and therefore its resources are stretched to breaking point. Use this forum to plan future trips - there are lots of people who will be able to help and advise you.
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Follow Up By: Ruth - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00
Axel & Karen, sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy your experiences at the Races and at the Caravan Park. You also didn't find me to have a coffee - I did invite you to do so. Now, a couple of things - you knew before you came there would be plenty of people here - being the Year of the Outback we knew from the phone calls the numbers would be greater - BUT, we didn't have more numbers this year than last year but we had many many more camper trailers than usual and they take up a lot of room. This is the first year we have put up the Full House sign and it was done so that those people already in the Park could have the benefit of the facilities. Now, as for the water tap that was padlocked (by me I might add) - where was it placed - right outside the laundry and people were filling their water containers and allowing water to run down the path onto the dirt - then the next lot of people were walking it into the showers, as there are other water taps placed around the Park it was the simplest thing to do, otherwise you would be whingeing about the mud in the toilets and showers. Also, on the Rules of the Camp handed to every vehicle you were asked that as you were guests in our front yard would you please ask for Ian or myself if there was something you needed to say. Very disappointed you didn't enjoy yourselves, but more disappointed that you didn't speak with me. For all those people who are going to free camp along the Diamantina - go right ahead it is very nice but the River is almost out of water (no rain for 14 months) but our Billabong is full. Happy camping everyone.
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Follow Up By: Ruth - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00
If anyone were to ask the local people in Birdsville how they feel about having to plan for the Races and the weeks either side and the amount of energy it takes to look after 5,500 people who leave home for a few days of mayhem, drinking, fighting meeting friends etc. - the locals would tell you that they would rather have two weeks extra in the holidays (school) and be able to service all their clients and to have time to spend talking with the visitors about the attractions in the area. People who come for the Races very rarely ever see the attractions of Birdsivlle and surrounds unfortunately, but we try to encourage them to come another time and see Birdsville as it really is, not at a time when a large percentage of people leave their manners at home and don't realise how their personalities change when tanked with sun, alcohol, bad windy dusty days. Ask anyone who lives here all year round and they will tell you they wished they didn't have to be here at Race time - that goes for every business. It's not worth the personal abuse you cop every year - this year was particularly bad, I know because I was on foot around the Park all day and most of the nights. I care about what happens in the Park and try to make it a good and safe place for all clients. Anyone notice the work that has been done to enable people to camp right along the edges of the Billabong or the 3,500 trees that have been planted?
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Follow Up By: Axel + Karen - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00
Bob, we used this forum extensively prior to our trip,and did as much homework as possible including email and phone to birdsville over several months ,, our observation ,not complaint ,was that even though the c/van park [as Ruth states below]was full , the house fullsign up,,more and more PAYING customers ,to the point of total over crowding of services people had paid for,,, basics you pay a c/van park for,as in showers ,toilets , water,,,and as for the parks list of rules or being asked to leave,,one huge joke ,,dozens of generators 24hrs a day,yet one responsibe generator user was forced to do his power generation outside the park as his small gen [2 stroke ] was deemed to noisey..... in case you are wondering [Ruth] said couple left on sat am as they ended up being totaly overrun by more and more tents to the extent that when they went for a drive to use the generator ,came back and could not park their vehicle within 40odd ft of the trailer,, and Ruth as for having a coffee with you ,thanks for the invite, but we simply ran out of time,,was all spent waiting in line for a shower,toilet and wash basin,,,
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Reply By: rojac - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
Did Birdsville in 89, a good meet it wasnt very commercialised, then again in 95 and the change was radical and vowed never again so I can imagine what its like now. Get a good thing, bring $$$$ into it ( good for the town) then you've lost the original concept.
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Reply By: Peter - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
Hi Axel & Karen. It has always been a problem in the caravan park at race time. There‘s really no reason to stay in town. If you don’t mind setting up your own facilities (it‘s really not that hard to do), there’s some great camping spots outside of town within walking distance to the pub. It’s free as well. Just watch the grid when staggering home at night. We were there this year, had a great time & will be back next year. Never say never, give it another chance. Did you pick a winner?
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Follow Up By: Heather And David - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
Hi Peter

We are heading out to Birdsville in a couple of weeks could u please give more information regarding the FREE camping spots in Bridsville - we have most of our own facilities.
thanks in advance
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Follow Up By: Axel + Karen - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00
Peter,yes we did pick a winner ,3 wins ,2 2nds and 4 3rds ....and we will go back to birdsville, Not during race week,,,we to had a great time,but the general overcrowding and blatant over charging of some [not all] services is enough to say Never again.
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Reply By: Peter - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
Heather & David. There’s plenty of camping spots east of town, especially along the Diamantina River. If you go in past the windmill along the river there’s some great spots in there. Check out the Working Museum while in Birdsville, you’ll be impressed.
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Reply By: John - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002 at 00:00
yeah and another thing..............we couldn't find any good motels on the Old Telegraph Track on the way to the cape either.........

sorry.........he he he har har heh he hehh ow ow my somach hurts...


he he he he heh

crikey

John
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Reply By: Glen - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00
We have never been to the races but have stopped in Birdsville on other trips twice. Stayed in the carvan park and yes it was ok ......Shame about the management and their attitude. I think some Birdsville people have been there too long and have forgotten who brings in most of the money into the town. Next time will have a quick beer and keep passing through.
GH.
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Reply By: Robyn - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002 at 00:00
Birdsville is really a nice and steady place for most of the year. Nov. to March it is very hot and very little moves.

Then come the tourists! Whom we welcome with open arms, as, after the cattle industry, are our most important industry.

For the most part, tourists and locals exist in harmony until race week. Then it all steps up a gear!

In this week a town of 120 is inundated by up to 6,000 persons whom, not all, bring their good behaviour and manners, with them.

It is hardly surprising that not everyone finds things to their expectations but an anology may be compared with taking the entire population of Sydney City and placing it in Toowoomba for two days. Obviously things will be difficult for clients and especially service providers.

It should also be remembered that this is a fund-raidsing exercise for the RFDS and Frontier Services ( Birdsville Clinic), the Birdsville Racing Club Inc retains only enough money for ongoing basic maintainance which is why on track facilities are basic.

We appreciate all support and accept the fact that all people cannot be satisfied. We apologise for this and trust that should you visit us at a less busy time of the year you will find things more to your liking.

Thank you for your support, however, any comments of denegration should be presented in a more thoughtful manner with, at least, some basis of truth or fact.





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Reply By: John - Thursday, Sep 19, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, Sep 19, 2002 at 00:00
After all it is the outback......thats what you go there to experience...
If you want all the fine things, then maybe the melbourne cup would be a better place.
I think the people of Birdsville do a really great job considering the amount of people that come into the town for such a short time.
Most people have trouble putting up their relatives for christmas....multiply that buy about a 1000 or so and you get a clear picture of how difficult it must be.
They cannot put up the gear to properly accomodate the extra poeple for just a week per year anymore than you could build an extra 3 or 4 bedrooms to catter for your Christmas visitors.
Good on Yu Birdsville.....you do a great job!!!

John
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Follow Up By: Ruth - Monday, Sep 23, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, Sep 23, 2002 at 00:00
Thank you so much John.
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Reply By: Geoff & Marie - Friday, Sep 27, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, Sep 27, 2002 at 00:00
We flew into Birdsville for the races and had a great time, showered on Saturday after the races with no line at all and slept under the wing of the plane. I want to go again and take the car this time. what a place to show the kids
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Reply By: sparra - Thursday, Oct 10, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, Oct 10, 2002 at 00:00
we went to birdsville last year and made a point of missing the races to miss the traffic on the roads and the crowds.we arrived 2 weeks after the races and found most people we meet to be rude(one big exception the lady at the tourist info) we finaly put it down to the locals being sick of tourist after the rush of the races.the total oppsite to most outback towns where everyone likes to have a chat and see whats happening in the rest of the country no real dramas with the caravan park we had it allmost to our self
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