Help Please - Buying New Landcruiser GXL

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 12:29
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Am intending to order a new Toyota Landcruiser 100 GXL Turbo Diesel Automatic. I do not have a trade-in.

I see that a discounter on the Internet can offer a net price of $68 700 (excludes dealer delivery charge of $1 695 and Qld State Govt delivery charges).
I was not thinking of adding accessories first off because of the extra tax. However, I suppose if a dealer can sweeten a deal by adding accessories at a discount that could be an option.

What advice please on avenues/ approach to get the most competitive new car price. What would be a best price?

EV700
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Reply By: JohnN - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 13:45

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 13:45
Gday ev700

I did same 3 months ago... I'm Sydney based though. I would think you could do better based on my experience. I ended up getting mine at a country dealer about 3 hours out of Sydney.... much better deal than anyone in Sydney at that time.

I would think 65-67 delivered on road whould be in range.

If you put the accessories on for delivery you get the 3 year warranty on all of them rather than 1 as is standard... which may be a consideration for you.

You wont regret it... it is a brilliant drive.

cheers
John
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:28

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:28
John
Thank you for your reply it is appreciated. After posting my question my ADSL went off. :-( . The phone lines in my street went down and have only just been restored.

I will approach country dealers too.
Thanks again
John
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 13:52

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 13:52
ev700.

Did the same three months ago.

If you are in SE Qld call Steve Allen - Sci Fleet 3361 0000.

Best deal & service I could find.

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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:29

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:29
Wim
Will do. Thank you.
Only just replying to you - after posting my question my ADSL went off. :-( . The phone lines in my street went down and have only just been restored.

Thanks again
John
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:39

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:39
ev700,
I bought an Auto 100 TD with no trade in and I found that all the dealers tried to muddy the waters with accessories to disguise the price . In the end it was impossible to compare them , as they were all offering this or that for free etc .
So I just said I want air con and floor mats and delivery - what's your best price .
Gilberts at Lidcombe in Sydney , were so far under the other prices , I thought that when I went back , he would say he had made a mistake . They hadn't though .
If somebody said "come back with your best price and I will beat it " I said give me the best price now or you will not hear from me again - I don't like screwing people like that .
Cheers ,
Willie
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 18:59

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 18:59
Good on ya Willie, it's a mongral thing to do, all it means if the genuine guys get screwed over and the sleezes get the deals so you can save $100.
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Follow Up By: DARREN - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 14:41

Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 14:41
Jeff,

I hardly think shopping back prices makes you sleazy but that is a personal view. When buying my GU that was the only way to find out what a "real" price was as most dealers will not talk relistic prices unless you have done your homework and they know (or think you are) ready to buy. Also the saving was a little more than $100, with all accessories I got try $7-8k!
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 19:57

Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 19:57
Darren I meant that the sleazes are the sales guys who just sit on their bums ripping people blind until someone with half clue come in and then they just get YOU to do THEIR work by finding the best price and then they just knock a little (maybe $100) off the price.
There is nothing wrong with shopping around, but being dishonest and screwing everyone off against everyone else I think is a mongrsl thing to do, however it is a personal view.
And no I'm not in the auto industry! :-)
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:32

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:32
Willie
Yes I think get quotes on a straightforward truck with no accessories is the only way to avoid confusion. That's good advice from you.

Only just replying to you - after posting my question my ADSL went off. :-( . The phone lines in my street went down and have only just been restored.

Thanks again
John
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Reply By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 21:18

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 21:18
I decided on the color and the car and sent faxes to more than a dozen dealers in Melbourne and surrounding towns. Said I wanted to purchase a cruiser with air con on eg 10th February, no finance, no trade in please fax me back a drive away price. Can ask for options to be listed separately to be added on the $1000k service.

I got back about 8 quotes - faxed them back and said "thanks for your interest by such and such has quoted $XXXX. If you are able to beat this quote please send me an updated quote for purchase on 10th Feb. Got back about four quotes and then rang a couple, haggled a bit more and visited the dealer and signed the deal. Good price and felt that I was not pressured by wanker salesman and I was in control rather than playing their games - I guess that this is sort of what brokers do when buying for you.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 14:48

Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 14:48
This is what I tell people is the only way to negotiate new cars , dont go in because they think they have you . If you send a fax , they will do anything to get you there.

Well done Andrew .
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:35

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:35
Andrew
That is a cluey approach - straight forward, up front and economical for the ealer and buyer alike.

What I'll do is follow your advice and do what others have said too; approach at least one big country dealer as well and get quotes for a truck with no accessories to avoid confusion.
thanks again
John
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:36

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:36
Andrew
I should add that I'm late replying to you because after posting my question my ADSL went off. :-( . The phone lines in my street went down and have only just been restored.

Thanks again
John
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Follow Up By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 08:04

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 08:04
Hahaaha - for me it would be ..."Oh my God - my internet it is down.........disaster - oh yes, the house was flooded and the car washed away too.....but the ADSL!!!!!"
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Reply By: 100 Series - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 23:18

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 23:18
Southside Toyota (BRISBANE) had them in Saturdays Courier Mail for $65000 driveaway for 2004 models.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:38

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:38
100 Series
Thanks for the heads up on the sale. I'll price against the 2005 compliance plate. Am keen to get the later plate.

Only just replying to all who kindly made comments because after posting my question my ADSL went off. :-( . The phone lines in my street went down and have only just been restored.

Thanks again
John

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:33

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:33
John,

Don't just look for complianced in 2005 but also built in 2005. My GU was built in Jan 2004 and complianced in March 2004.
You could end up with a Nov/Dec 04 built beast that is complianced in Feb 05.
Good luck!
Leroy
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Reply By: Mike-TS - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 23:26

Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 23:26
Lucky b@#st%^ds, over in the west we only have a couple of dealers and they screw us to the wall!
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:41

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 07:41
Mike-TS
True, but once you have purchased the vehicle you have heaps more remote area to have fun in ;-)

John
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