Wheels Car of the yr?

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Reply By: beatit - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:05

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:05
G'day Truckster,

Can't honestly say that I know the car but is this a case of not qualifying for 4WD of the year?

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:10

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:10
got put into ovelanders 4wd of the year which was won by a landrover. But fair dinkum the criteria the vehicles are judged on are a far cry from what ordinary buyers look at . territory score highly due to its 30 odd hidey holes. Gotta admit I havnt had much to do with awd vehicles but if the territory is better than a Subaru outback I will stand behind Truckster waiting for Christina Applegate to finish
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:22

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:22
" But fair dinkum the criteria the vehicles are judged on are a far cry from what ordinary buyers look at"

WELL SAID.. how many think an X5 is a 4wd to start with! What planet are they on?

They really need to start different levels - most of us cant afford $100K+ to start with...

Gee, I cant understand why I dont buy 4wd magz anymore...
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:46

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:46
C'mon guys we all must know by now how much of a crock of crap wheels car of the year is... I mean can you remeber when the JB Cameria won! Honestly. Generally wheels car of the year awards point out the future lemons of the automotive industry, ergo it's probally spot on! :-)
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:07

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:07
Truckster,

It was also in the a finalist in the Overlander 4wd of the year.

Very cleaver of Ford , the same vehicle in both 2wd and 4wd of the year.

I think the BMWx5 won it for 4WD Monthly and OVerlander had the Discovery 3. Which by the way is not on sale to the public until later this month.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:18

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:18
Any magazine that THINKS an X5 is 4wd of the yr deserves to go broke.

How many do you see offroad, or even in the dirt on the side of the road?

Gawd..
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 13:11

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 13:11
I did see one driving in the salt water at Boat Harbour when they first came out.

Obviously the owner didn't know any better.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 21:03

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 21:03
I saw one coming down the Zeka Spur Track into Wonnangatta.
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Reply By: me and my dog - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:13

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:13
Well desrved I thought. People might find faults in it, but the fact it was designed and built here from the ground up, albeit using some other Ford Technology, is a bit of a tribute. Can only help continue to generate the interest that is being shown overseas in it, which again is good
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Reply By: timber - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:33

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:33
It would be an interesting exercise to see what the mags advertising revenues and overseas jaunts for the mags "journos" where from a particular company for the year it received a COTY, (........... maybe I'm just too much of s synic).

Cheers

Buggerlux

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Reply By: Utemad - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 12:29

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 12:29
4x4 Australia magazine has decided that from this year onwards only vehicles with low range are to be included. Along with all the other criteria they have.
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Follow Up By: Joe - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:08

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:08
It has appealed to my son for his young family.....he recently asked if he did buy it would he be able to follow me into the High Country. I said that even with a lift I do not think the car would be able to handle the woopsy do's...conservation mounds...draging the bum, What do you guys think
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Joe
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Reply By: Nudenut - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 14:30

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 14:30
why not.......its only car!!! albeit 2 or all wheel drive
dont confuse it with a real 4wd truckster
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Reply By: slyonnet - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 16:48

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 16:48
I think this has a lot to do with marketing. At the moment everything you look at or listen to advetise the Territory. As usual, many people are just following what they think is the norm from what they see on TV, and that's why we now see more and more Territories around. Well done Ford for their good ad campaign but I still think that this awd ain't worth the money they ask for it compare to a real 4wd (and I won't even mention the 2wd version).
When you think about it a few years back Nissan did a great campaign for the X-Trail and it became very popular. I don't know if they won anything like car of the year or not but they certainly sold a lot of them in a short time.
Shame that a proper 4wd equipped and priced for the use it should be intended for does not win those contest.
Sly.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:02

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:02
it was car of the year it won which is probably appropriate overlander had a landrover win its 4wd of the year - love em or hate em they are a genuine 4wd
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Follow Up By: slyonnet - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:34

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:34
Sorry, I did not mean to say that the X-trail was not a genuine 4wd, I've never driven one but they look quite good although still in the soft roader category as they call it. I was more referring to the Territory winning this contest: It's just amazing that this car could win when 4wd that are more capable and affordable off-roaders are around. Sure it depends greatly on the points they are judged on, but should the off-road capability be one of the primairy criteria for an off-road (or supposed to be) vehicle? Plus I still believe that marketing has a lot to do with and it would not suprise me to see that Ford is one of the sponsors for that competition.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 16:52

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 16:52
Yeah I heard the news at work Bruce :)

Looks out for new variants probably next year....can't say much on here or I'll get my arse kicked.
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Reply By: me and my dog - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:54

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:54
bit confused about why there is a hint of debate about whether it should have won instead of a real 4wd. It won car of the year, nothing else
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Follow Up By: me and my dog - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:57

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 17:57
sorry cant edit it , finishing with "nothing else" sounds a bit rude, wasnt meant to be. aploagies
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Follow Up By: Lynn2 - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 19:02

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 19:02
You got it in One!!!!! The debate has nothing to do with 4wd!!!
How did we go down this track?????
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 23:35

Friday, Feb 04, 2005 at 23:35
Just a little point of reference , since blo-dy when is this site EXPLORE OZ only a 4x4 orientated site , yes a lot of Australia requires a hard core 4x4 ,but by no means do you need a tojo/nisabishi with a 4inch body+4inch suspension lift to see the best of the country, Truckster get out of your accident DEPPRESSION and get real into EXPLORING OZ.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:32

Saturday, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:32
Well deserved, ground breaking technology, market shaping vision.

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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 15:20

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 15:20
A totally unbias reply there Bonz, wink wink lol

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 20:24

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 20:24
Absolutely Baz, I even bought a NISSAN Patrol once with a FORD badge, Maverick I think, whet else would you expect from me? hahahahahah
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Reply By: Markymark - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 14:20

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 14:20
It won Wheels car of the Year probably because it does drive like a car. Why argue with that? It hasn't won a 4wdoty, wait & see what 4x4 Australia do. Someone said they thought 4wd Monthly awarded it...buckleys, if you read the mag they don't even let softroaders enter. The DX Patrol won their last award. Was interesting in the Overlander award that most of the testers actually preferred the BMW, saying something like 'if I could leave the 4wd at home I'd take the BMW'. Well wake up Overlander it is a 4wd award, if you're all taken by the comfort of something softer go & work for Wheels...or Cleo or something.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 15:18

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 15:18
Being a two wheel drive means it's a car so if it wins car of the year then, der!!!

Baz.
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Reply By: Member - Landie - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 16:05

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 16:05
I think there is an element of "mine's bigger than yours" element running in this thread, as there is in others from time to time.

If the vehicle (any vehicle) does what you want it to do and gets you where you want to go - great. If it isn't your cup of tea - so what, just respect that it might be someone else's choice and move on.

I'll hop down now.
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