Carrying Fuel

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 06, 2005 at 21:13
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I have noticed regular debate on this forum re steel jerry cans vs plastic, carrying on roof vs in car. This post is not about those topics!

I have seen at a boating accessories shop I visit regularly (an excellent source for 12v wiring, switches sockets etc) I noticed plastic fuel tanks of all sizes, also I noticed a soft flexible tank for diesel ranging from 50L to 200L.

They have a breather hose that you could divert to the outside of the vehicle to vent fumes if you wanted to carry them inside the car.

Has anyone considered this option for carrying fuel in a 4X4?

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Feb 06, 2005 at 22:27

Sunday, Feb 06, 2005 at 22:27
With all the room under a 4wd why would you want to use room that most people are digging and praying for more of inside the car? Get a Long range, and a belly tank.. Then if needed, go the jerry holder on the bumper. I hate roofracks personally.

Also if it did leak while inside the car, or crack etc, everything in the car is soaked thru with diesel/petrol.. and if its petrol, I'm fairly sure its illegal to carry inside.
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Follow Up By: Groove - Sunday, Feb 06, 2005 at 22:42

Sunday, Feb 06, 2005 at 22:42
Well I dont want the weight and expense of long range tank because I dont need the extended range very often.

I have plenty of room inside the car, no kids and only two people in a patrol leaves a great deal of room for equipement.

Given that these things are designed to be bounce around in the bottom of a boat I thought they might be up to the task and being soft would able to be folded up when not needed.
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Reply By: motherhen - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 00:37

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 00:37
Isn't it illegal to carry fuel in a container inside a vehicle?
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:02

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:02
Motherhen,

Not that I know of.

It is illeagle to carry fuel on the back of a vehicle, jerry can holder that attach to the rear bar.

Imagine a vehicle running into the back of a vehicle with 20lt of fuel sitting on the rear.

There is a ADR that even states how far from the end of the chassis rail a tank can be mounted.

Fuel stored in the right container is alright to carry in the vehicle.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Mozza (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:33

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:33
wayne.. just a curious question.... if it is illegal to carry a jerry can full of fuel on the back of a car.. then why do Kaymar/Global and other swing-away manufacturer's make them with holder as standard??
or are they only used for carrying water?
have you ever seen a policeman pull someone over to get there jerry can inspected?
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:49

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:49
no it isnt my camper was inspected after conversion with the jerry on the back
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:52

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:52
Mozza,

Kaymar and other manufactors of jerry can holders sell them as jerry can holders. What you put in the jerry can is up to you.

They could say that it was only ment to carry water if it ever came to a lawsuit.

Carring fuel on the back of a vehicle is a bomb waiting to go off.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross P (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:34

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 10:34
Wayne,

I think it is illegal to carry fuel, at least LPG and petrol, inside the vehicle. Don't know about diesel, but even though it is less volatile I think it falls into the same category. Not supposed to carry wet cell batteries inside either, unless they are in a sealed vented container and wel secured.

Re the issue of jerry cans on the back of cars trailers and vans, I have taken this up with the NSW RTA and their advice is that there is no "law" against it.
Having said that, Coromal Caravans would not fit jerry can holdres to the rear of my 505 Seka Pioneer XC because, I belive, of potentional liability/litigation in the event of an accident.

I carry 22 litres od diesel on one side of the rear bumber and 22 litres of water on the other side.
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:12

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:12
Ross,

Carring jerry cans on the back is OK, it is what is in the cans that is the problem.

Carring LPG in a vehicle illegal because of the problem with the gas bottle venting when it get too hot or the tap is not turned off properly.

The bottom line is, if you are prepared for the outcome, carring fuel other than in a fuel tank, is up to you.

Wayne
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 08:00

Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 08:00
Groove,

If the tanks had the ADR approval for fuel tanks in a vehicle is see why not, but like Truckster said go for the long range tank under the vehicle.

Wayne
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