camping shower
Submitted: Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:10
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ozidave
I want to buy a gas powered camping shower. I've identifeied 3 products: the Coleman Hot water on Demand; the Aussie Camper Shower & the Primus instant hot shower. What do you recommend? Do you know what the relative flow rates are?
Also, I'd prefer not to have to park the car next to the shower. What sort of battery / battery pack do you recommend to power the pump?
Reply By: flappa - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:23
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:23
A cheapo Battery pack from Supercheap will run the pumps.
Couple of things on the shower units.
AFAIK , the Aussie Shower doesn't have any sort of cutoff device. I have heard a couple of instances of them getting burnt out.
The Primus touted the fact that they were designed , and complied with the Relevant Gas legislation. In fact , It wasn't. Could be approved by now.
Not sure of flow rates as such , but the Primus used the same sort of pumps as can be bought from DSE and the Like. I had one for a while , but cant recall exactly what it was. I think it was about 3 litres a minute ?
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:25
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:25
Go the coleman, totally "self contained" with its own rechargeable battery, 12/240 recharge units supplied,each gas canister does 160lt of water infinitely variable from cold to boiling, adaptor hose allows use of standard gas bottles, no need to be near vehicle, pump connects to folding 20lt jerry and /or throw pump into bucket or any readily available water source /can be connected to household tap ,truly portable.
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Follow Up By: Poppy - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 21:11
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 21:11
Hi Undertaker Where did you get your adaptor hose?
The camping store where I got
mine doesn't have them.
So far I reckon it's a great unit although haven't used it over an extended period, but that will change when we go to
Mapoon in May
Cheers Poppy
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:06
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:06
KMart have the adaptor hose.
KMart also has the Coleman unit on special for $239.00
The great advantage of the Coleman it is instant and takes virtually no set-up and hot water can be used from drinks to washing up to showers easily.
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:30
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 16:30
Ps ,not sure of the flow rate of the coleman but do know a 20lt bucket lasts 8/10min.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 18:21
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 18:21
That'd be between 2 and 3 lpm then - gotta say I like my sureflow 12lpm ;-)
(I've got a lot to get showered!)
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:01
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:01
Yeah Ivan , Great, but it would be a mighty cold shower at that flow!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:08
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:08
Well that would depend on how capable your heat exchanger was ;-))) (
mine works at that rate)
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Reply By: Member - Luxoluk - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 21:15
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 21:15
After you have done the maths
check the price of a Glind unit fitted to your vehicle. May be a better option and nothin to cart?? Cheers
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:07
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:07
Glind shold be called 'Pain in the Butt' compared to a Coleman
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Follow Up By: Member - Luxoluk - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:37
Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:37
Have you had a bad experience??
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Follow Up By: David Au - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:52
Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:52
Luxoluk I found them a total and complete pain. Firstly had no end of problems with leaks and they eventually replaced the unit. However, the major issue was you had to run the vehicle at mid-range revs when the engine was cold and you wanted hot water, and overall ended up more of a pain hooking things up, getting to the water etc. etc.
With the Coleman you have instant hot water at the flick of a switch for hot drinks, washing up, showering etc. Other major advantage with the Coleman, you can take the hot part to the water, instead of the other way around. There are many taps around and other water outlets that the Coleman can easily be carried that you cannot get the car close enough even with hoses.
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Follow Up By: Member - Luxoluk - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 11:52
Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 11:52
Hi David. I appreciate that the Coleman suits your purposes. For the desert trips I have found the Glind really good and just about to C/o and refit to new diesel. Haven't had any difficulty and certainly no leaks. I believe the glind does not operate
well where there are air leaks but I have set
mine up tight. All I do is pull out a jerry and screw on the shower hose and I'm away...
heaven!! I must admit things can get ugly when I don't use a shower tent!! Cheers
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Reply By: brett - Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 21:44
Monday, Feb 07, 2005 at 21:44
I got a gas hose from Ray's outdoors in
Sydney, about $30. The flow rate will vary depending on how high the pump has to pump but is around 3L a minute. A 12L a minute flow rate would be a good shower but unless you have an unlimted
water supply of water it will be a very short shower.
The coleman shower head is no good, I actually use the shower head off one of those cheap 12V jobs, the same as the Primus uses, it's a much better shower head and at 3L a minute you can have a good shower with just 10L of water.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:09
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:09
Bunnings even have a better shower head than one of those cheap 12v jobs. That is what I used first and then bought one from Bunnings for (scratching head) $9.90. The Bunnings one uses less water and gives better shower.
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Reply By: Member - Raymond - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:11
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:11
Hi Dave
After looking at all of them and each have good features I still prefer the billy over the fire or gas if unable to have open fire, 10 litre bucket X 2 (preferable one with lid to store shower etc) 12 volt shower unit, I have found the dearer primus unit to last for years rather than the real elcheapos. Max cost $50 plus if modest $100 for shower tent. One large billy to one bucket of cold water one shower or two if showering with a friend.
So as not to have to shower too close to 4WD just made up an extention lead from the cigarette lighter.
Ray
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 12:43
Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 12:43
Ozidave,
Here are my thoughts. If you want portable shower then the best is the Coleman. bAlso instant heat means you can get hot water for the dishes instead of boiling a billy but of course you need space to store it.
If space is an issue then get an underbonnet twine,glind or whatever with a decent shureflo. I just got one installed after using Ivan's(ACT) and found it to be fantastic. Even though it is a highflo pump you can still shower in under 10 liters of water including hair shampoo. The extra flo is a huge bonus if camped by an unlimited
water supply. Plus you can draw it up straight from a river 2metre I think.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:46
Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:46
You can also recycle the water.
Seen someone use a small inflatable pool to stand in , and another, one of those large 100l plastic tool boxes (about $25 from Supercheap).
I prefer the Underbonnet ones for our use (6 people).
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