Bus busted

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:07
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I have owned a 1975 Toyota Coaster bus for 6 years and I feel I have not TRULY put it through its paces as yes. I do the 4WD tracks on maps but am scared of water puddles and being bogged.
No one I know wants to put their Coaster to the test too. 4WD clubs scoff at the idea of taking me out because it appears not fair as I have no winch. Where can I go to hook up with a group who are willing to push my bus (and me) a bit?

It has a reliable 22r 1996 Hilux petrol eng. 5 spd Dyna box. Rear dual Mud/snow tyres. I dont mind it being banged up a bit, but not too much. Please any advice welcome.
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Reply By: Utemad - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:11

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:11
My advice is to jack up the Hilux motor and slide a Hilux under it. Then you can go away with 4x4 clubs ROFLMAO.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:24

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:24
Hang on , we've got a 2wd 96 hilux with the mighty 22r petrol thats lucky to push itself along let alone a freaking bus.. Are you for real or is little jonno back again ??

If genuine - i would say its because no-one wants to have to recover the thing if it bogs to the bum out somewhere. Not much chop on tight tracks / low trees etc. either.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:28

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:28
It couldnt be for real....

As I said its a troll, or diamond on the beer again ;)
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:41

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:41
I am real. Real as it gets.

I dont want to be a pain to 4Wd's which is why I ask for advice.

Everybody has different tastes.

I DO go up 4wd tracks marked on the maps and if you think you can teach me how to make my bus to get through the water i'd take it.

As I said. I GENUINLY ask for advice because I don't want to put any-one out. Heck I don't want to HAVE to be recovered either. But I do want to see what it can do.
I think if any one had the audasity to give it a go it would make for a fun and eye opening day.

iMusty aka James
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:58

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:58
iMusty a 22R!!! Do you have a hole cut in the floor so you can help scoot the bus along.
Considering that bus does not even have a limited slip diff, it would get bogged on the first bit of mud or even wet grass.
Going through water takes common sense, check the depth and flow speed, remembering what a great water sail your bus side on would be, and ensuring you have some gear to extricate yourself if your engine snuffs it or your bus gets bogged. I am always gingerish to take my 4WD camper through water through water 400mm, let alone a coaster 2WD drive bus with NO limited slip diff.

As a matter of interest, where do you live and where do you want to take your bus on 4WD tracks.
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:06

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:06
Well I'm in Melbourne and I am taking it to Sth. Eastern areas. Very mild stuff. But definately off road. I don't want to go through gushing rivers or anything like that. In fact river crossings did not enter my mind.

I dont do to bad on bush tracks and mapped 4x4 roads. I think and drive without hesitation. My hesitation is the mud and huge puddles. I wont assume I can get through without a backup vehicle. Or the equiptment to get me out. It seems most of the sheep on this site are assuming I want to be off the rail completely stupid. I don't. I want to be off the rails completely fun looking back at the days I gave it a go.
Incidentally the bloke that owned the bus befire me took it on most 4x4 tracks in the Grampions.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:33

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:33
iMusty yes there are a substantial number of roads in the great wonderful South and North Eastern areas of Victoria you could go.
Humber garsh-lee - Meaning - stay well, go well, in your Coaster.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 18:32

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 18:32
I dont doubt the ability to get some traction where needed etc. but my reservation would be the pure physical size of it, i just sneak through a lot of places in the jackaroo, so the coaster would be knackered, not much room on a lot of tracks to turn or back out either. I know we have a realbleepefite in the CFA tankers in a lot of places, due to their size.

Having said that Big river road and frenchmans spur track would be sweet, lots of others out there fairly open with only little water holes.

check them out, easy drive from Marysville.
Also state forest south of Sale has nice wide sand tracks and roads.

Relos have a touring coaster with bullbar and snorkel out the front, so it can be easily done, but they only see gravel roads at worst.

Ps i would come to see you trying to pull it out with a hand winch, some effort that would be, If you are going to have a good go, get a real good electric winch.
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 00:49

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 00:49
(((Big river road and frenchmans spur track would be sweet, lots of others out there fairly open with only little water holes.

check them out, easy drive from Marysville.
Also state forest south of Sale has nice wide sand tracks and roads. )))

With much thanks
iMusty
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:27

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:27
I smell a troll...

You do the 4wd tracks, but dont want to get wet or bogged, yet you want to push harder.. What do you want to do in a BUS? What do you expect?

I dont blame people for not wanting to take you out in a BUS, if things break, which they will in something not designed for 1/1000000th of what your dreaming of doing, then their day/night sittin round trying to recover you and drag a BUS 5klms up hills to get you out of the bush would be a bitch.

Agree with other poster, get the lux body back and go inthat.
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Reply By: old-plodder - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:33

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:33
I know what you mean. Used to have a beetle that had good traction for a 2 wheel drive. Bit of suspension lift and sump guard, and a nice flat pan underneath. Now it is not a 4wd, but the places we used to get were amazing to us.
Remember the first time to the tip of cape york in our then new pajero and an old bloke pulled up next to us in a 2wd ute. Had taken his time and got through, and didn't need any help. If he had a problem he just worked it out and took his time with an old hand winch.

So you most probably will be able to most of the grade 1 tracks (out of a 5 grade system) and the grade 2.
That low first gear and clearance is an advantage, and most probably get you places even the soft 4wds of today wouldn't go.

Keep asking, there are a few people here who have a 4wd only mind set.
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:47

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 13:47
Thanks.

A hand winch seems like a great idea.

Much appreciate your reply.

How much can they pull? How much weight?

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Follow Up By: Member - Paul J (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:16

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:16
Jeeez that would be a great workout, winching a bus along........
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross P (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:40

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:40
I remember my old (pretty new then) 1963 VW bettle. Gee did we take it places, got bogged in mud and sand and basically man handled it out but I was 19 or twenty then, fit and a bit too game for my own good.
Bit more catious these days and perhaps, only perhaps, a little wiser for the experience. Bloody thing became a boat in not much more than six inches of water.
Remember the VW ads where all you saw was a heap of snow until a puff of exhaust smoke and out drove the beetle. Great car and lots and lots of fun. My missus, then girl friend still talk about those days.
Now we have to have our plush leather seated 4by, air conditioned van, a Cobb Cooker and a bottle of good red!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: old-plodder - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 17:01

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 17:01
Look at post 20246 on coaster for wiches- strange two coasters on the forum the same day.
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Reply By: DukeAtty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:03

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:03
We followed a Coaster from Laura right up to the Seisa via the OTL two years ago and i must admit it did quite well but it did do quite a bit of track damage due to tyres spinning on the exit of most of the creek crossings which couldnt be helped at the time because of it being 2wd....
Damage like that should be avoided by having the right vehicle...
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Follow Up By: Well 55 - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:49

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:49
My son in law's father has taken his coaster to the cape and back a number of times (he maybe the one you saw as the son in law lives in Weipa and the bus was up there then).

But he has a V6 commodore moter with auto and I think by now has a diff lock fitted in the rear. On GOOD roads keeps up with most 4WD's sitting on the legal limit. So don't discount the coaster as a vehicle to get to those out of the way places that most soft roaders fear to tread.
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:16

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:16
Yeah the damage to the enviroment is a thought I had too. I would abandon the whole idea if I thought it was irrevearsable. I do tidy up a few places as I go. Heaven knows I have the room for another bag of some bums garbage. I thank you for your input. I am looking for a 4x4 coaster but there scarce in Melbourne.
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Follow Up By: banjodog - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:28

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:28
If you're really keen, this crowd do the Coaster 4wd conversions - http://www.4wdworld.com.au/outlets/outoftown/outoftown.htm
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:40

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:40
Thankyou banjodog
visiting site now
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:22

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 14:22
coasters are a comercial vehicle and will take punishment suspension wise and a few bangs underneath but as for anything other than rough tracks and you are pushing it. If you truly want to try you would have to look at the full gamut of recovery gear inc a winch - hi lift and jacking points coz you have a fairly heavy vehicle that is lower than a 4by with less power and is 2wd. I had a 2wd nissan camper that would bog straight down in sand, A coaster would have to be worse
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:09

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 15:09
Advice taken with thanks

iMusty
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 16:20

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 16:20
>Where can I go to hook up with a group who are willing to push my bus (and me) a bit?

Dunno. I suspect there aint too many who wish to fart around pushing a Coaster out of bog holes. Having said that I'd give it a go if you can get a few others.
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 16:59

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 16:59
Thanks Mad Dog.

I recken a couple of laughs and "jeez I can't believe it would do that" would be heard on that day.
I will keep you posted if I get anyone else game.

iMusty
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 22:45

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 22:45
No probs iMUSTY. I'm trying to tee up a few hardcore 4x4 blokes from work who may be interested in ripping this bus through a few tracks one way or the other for a laugh.

email me and we'll arrange a time and place...click on pic for email address.
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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 18:40

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 18:40
iMusty, just do it! But for a bit of security get yourself a Tirfor type winch. You'll probably be surprised where the Coaster will go. Years ago when we live in Darwin I bought a new 1976 model Dyna Twin Cab (previous to this I had Landcuisers so I new all the 4x4 tracks in the top end), you should have seen the jaws drop on the owners of 4x4's when a conventional 2wd showed up at supposedly 4wd spots. Clearance, its all about ground clearance.

A few years later I bought a 1972 model, put a Landcruiser diff centre and diff lock in it, followed by a 253 V8. A few years later I converted this one to a 4x4. It was a bit agricultural but an amazing vehicle.
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 22:47

Tuesday, Feb 08, 2005 at 22:47
Musty.
My second tow truck was a 75 dyna,[ same vehicle] in fact Ive still got it. I often towed out 4x4's with it, the trick was not to get the dyna in the same bog hole but to stay on the firm ground and use the winch. so dont give up on your dreams. I ran radial tyres at low pressure when running up bush tracks. If you like you could use the tracks on my property 50k south east of Melboune to test you rig, no I wont be pushing you out but there is a few tractors around if required. Eric.
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 00:57

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 00:57
Much obliged

Thankyou
iMusty
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Follow Up By: iMusty - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:33

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:33
I would like to try your tracks.

Let's arrange something.

iMusty
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Follow Up By: Eric Experience. - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 22:08

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 22:08
iMusty.
Send me an Email on. emer@netspace.com.au or ring on 59432267
Eric.
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