Piranha DBS150 Mk111 dual battery

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 21:11
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I've got a second hand Piranha Dual battery management thingy but it has no instructions with it. I need to know which of the two red leads goes to which battery please. Looking at the unit the lead on the right is twice as long as the one on the left, but they may have been modified. Thanks in advance.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 23:04

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 23:04
Pat, doesn't the unit have engraved or embossed numbers, like on relays?

Some of those numbers are quite common.

Maybe try a auto sparkey, he would be able to find out.

Wolfie
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Reply By: David Au - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 23:14

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 23:14
Buy a decent unit first up instead of fitting something now and replacing it later.
Redarc Solenoid Battery Isolator Only decent worthwhile battery isolator for 12v
I would not fit that Piranha as a decoration on my kids bike - if I had a kids bike.
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 16:11

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 16:11
Thanks for the reply, really useful.

I've got a couple of kids bikes here if you want one.
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Follow Up By: Mainey... - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 12:03

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 12:03
I was born and spent my youth in Albury
and 0zi's not unknown with his short
overweight physique he would look
umm, different on a push bike, LoL
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 21:29

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 21:29
Mainey you are such a pathological liar
I am not short and not overweight. 1860mm is far from short
Albury is not my home town and came here for the first time four years ago. I do not even live in Albury full time.
Mainey your lies always catch up with you as you tell lies all the time
Mainey you cannot tell the truth or lie straight in bed
Mainey go and get some education you are a pathetic apology
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Follow Up By: Mainey... - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 22:45

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 22:45
Mainey... posted this followup

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"I was born and spent my youth in Albury"
(end quote)

0zi, it reads that "I", as in me, not you, was born in Albury.

as to education, reread the above, and you will see you have made a mistake
you don’t understand the written English language very well, do you!
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 23:01

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 23:01
Don't be embarrased Ozi. I hear weight watchers have a program for men that may be of some benefit to you. That and some transplant hair and wow....you may be quite the ladies man....chin up old boy.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:35

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:35
Mad Dog sorry to disappoint you, but I do not need Weight Watchers or a hair transplant.
Mad Dog you along with your bum chums Jimbo, Mainey and Drivesafe need basic education and a team of psychiatrists. Birds of feather always flock together, and in your case a what a mob of failed turkeys.
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Follow Up By: Mainey... - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 12:18

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 12:18
0zi,
you have such an unreal way with words, however, it is not discerning or of a well-mannered nature; you can dish out your vitriol but as we can see you can’t take it at all.

This is a family orientated forum and it should always be remembered that youngsters read the posts by every one, and they make informed decisions on the relevant information posted, don’t you play god and make out your above reproach and don’t make mistakes and tell half truths, just in the anticipation of making money from people without the real knowledge to know any better.

Have a nice day......
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Reply By: Mainey... - Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 23:45

Wednesday, Feb 09, 2005 at 23:45
Pat,
I assume you mean the actual power lead to each battery??

There should be;
1 x black wire, it goes to 'earth'
1 x red wire, it is recomended to go to "wiper motor circuit" as it's 12v source (or ignition switch)
and the 2 thick red/orange battery leads, one goes to each respective positive (+) battery terminal...

The red/orrange battery leads should have the words "MAIN" battery on one and "AUXILLIARY" battery on the other... ???

so simple.... and is GUARANTEED in writing to work with Deep cycle and also Cranking batteries unlike cheap bi-metal solinoids... couldn't help it 0zi... LoL

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Follow Up By: David Au - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 00:23

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 00:23
Mainey really, why do you not go and get some VERY basic education on electrics and especially low voltage electrics and extremely basic electronics. You cannot say you understand or know anything about the basics when you make such ridiculous ill informed remarks and of course cannot back them up technically.

Explain in detail how that awful Piranha system works with the voltages and processes from start to finish. NO, I wont be holding my breath because you could not.
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:44

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 06:44
David,

Give it a break.

There is more than one battery isolater on the market.

If ,for example the Piranha system didn't work, howcome there are so many of them out there still working and people are happy with them.

I have been running and installing Piranha systems for years and they work for me and that is all I have to know is that they work, and not how they work.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:23

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:23
I've had one (Piranha) in our Patrol for 6 years or so, and it's been faultless. I use the fridge for a few days at a campsite and the deep-cycle discharges with use. The cranking battery still starts the car up first flick. I go for a few hours drive and the battery is charged and ready to run again. What more do I want? Nothing!
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:37

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:37
Wayne,

David (aka Ozi) is some sort of an electrical dealer. He uses forums like this to peddle his wares.

His method is to put himself forward as some sort of expert and then bag any product he doesn't sell. Then he comes forward as a knight in shining armour and offers you a deal on something he sells, or posts links directly related to his business. Not ethical.

Of course there is nothing wrong with Pirahna. As you note there are plenty of them giving good service.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:19

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:19
Darling little insanely jealous mumbo Jimbo you see you are so wrong and far from the truth to be laughable. Must be a bummer to be lazy and poor eh!
There is plenty wrong with Piranha and electronic switching battery isolators, but you are like your pathetic cohorts completely lacking in basic education and do not even have the ability to do the most basic research - unbelievably dumb!!!
No worse a trait in people than jealousy, especially of educated achievers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:08

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:08
Allright David - I'll bite.

What's your explaination? I'm interested in your reasoning behind the technical merits of the unit you're pushing over the "electronic switching" isolators. This is not a jab at you, I'd just like to know what they are.
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:07

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:07
C'mon david- Im hanging out for this insight
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 16:10

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 16:10
Thanx Mainey. It does indeed have auxillairy and main written on the cables, I never noticed.
Looks like I'm busy on Sat morning now.
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Follow Up By: Mainey... - Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 19:46

Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 19:46
Chrispy,
I am also interested in his reply, but I don't believe you will get a qualified answer that has not two 'different' meanings, or should that be 'identical' ?
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 13:55

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 13:55
0zi,
All right - I'll bite also......

What's your explanation ?

I'm also interested in your reasoning behind the technical merits of the redarc bi-metal solenoid you're so intrepidly “selling” over "electronic switching" isolators.

0zi, Why are redarc solenoids superior to any other charge/isolator including the basic ColeHershey (sp) switch, as I believe even they have a legitimate place in an isolator/recharge system if you are prepared to accept a manual switching system.

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Follow Up By: David Au - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 16:54

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 16:54
darling little Mainey pathetic jealous child I do not sell them and you need to learn to get your technical facts correct.
This just proves more than anything else how totally inept and how you are so totally lacking in basic technical knowledge. There are *HUGE* reasons for using a mechanical battery isolator over an electronic unit. If you were 1% technically competent and educated you would know. You try and sprout technical knowledge along with your bum chums, but you have zero education or knowledge.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 22:06

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 22:06
0zi,
now is your chance to explain those *huge* reasons for using a mechanical battery isolator over an electronic unit, as you have stated above.

So please educate the people that require the education as you stated, show us our mistakes..... Please.

0zi, you have centre stage -> tell us the reasons please.
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Reply By: BenSpoon - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 00:46

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 00:46
Main Batt Left, Auxillary Batt Right
dodgy wiring diagram

Good on the people saying they arebleep.
Ive been running mine a year and a half, no fail yet. Im happy you paid 3 times the price i got mine for- Ill be sure to think of you if I have to buy another 2 and still have spent less than you did.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:00

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:00
BenSpoon what are you blithering on about?
Who said anything about price?
BenSpoon you OK, or you got a problem.
Come on BenSpoon, tell us about your problem eh!
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:40

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:40
Ben,

See my above follow up to Wayn.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 08:02

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 08:02
David Au

You need an education in etiquette pal.

Almost all your replies on this forum carry such an obnoxious and "superior" tone that nobody is going to take any notice of your advice, regardless of its true technical merit.
Bill


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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:15

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:15
Pat,
To answer your question Mate.

Just had a look at at mine (DBS150 Mk11) and looking at the front of the unit, the left hand heavy duty wire goes to the Primary battery and the right hand heavy duty wire to the Auxilliary Battery.

In operation, the unit will allow the Primary battery to receive its full charge first, then cut over to charge the Auxilliary one. Indication of this occuring is by a green indicator light on the unit showing the Auxilliary is being charged.

The only difference between the Mk11 (mine) and Mk111 (yours) is that the Mk111 provides a facility to connect an external (eg. in cabin) meter to monitor both batteries. (I think) TJM, as a Piranha distributor will be able to confirm this if you wish and they stock the meters, should you want one.

Despite other comments in this post Pat, the Piranha product is recognised by many Auto Elecricians to be a quality product.

Have a good one!
Bill


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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 16:13

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 16:13
Thanks Sandman. Ive got the in cabin meter to monitor the batteries.
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Reply By: Ray Bates - Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:23

Thursday, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:23
Hi. Forget all about thos Pirahna, Arrid twincharge type things. All you need is a good quality solinoid and good sized cabling. All those fancy named things are only solinoids rearly and they cost a bomb for what they do. I have been running a DSB on the drawbar of my carava for some while now and only use an ignition activated 180amp soliniod
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Follow Up By: Mainey... - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 12:11

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 12:11
Ray,

How old is your Deep Cycle battery ?

How long does your Deep Cycle battery take to recharge ?
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Follow Up By: Ray Bates - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 09:45

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 09:45
Hi Mainy,
My DSP is about 18months old but it take 12hrs to charge from the car alternator and then only to 80% (120ah) but I am in the midst of replacing the 8mm cable with some 4aswg cable that should reduce charging time considerably. $aswg cable has a cross sectional area of the conductor of about 19mm2.
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