Boat fuel tank on roof .

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 20:46
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With our simpson desert trip coming up , I was going to fit a longrange tank to the cruiser . Now looking through all the things in the garadge , I cam across a 50 litre boat plactic boat tank . I came up with the idea of fitting it to the roof rack of the cruiser form y simpson trip . This way i wont need to get a longrange tank . I can get a hose to reach the filler neck for easy refill , no need to lift it off ect .

I am ofter peoples opinion , if you think I am heading for a disaster , please tell me lol
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:16

Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:16
Eric,

I am not sure if your vehicle is petrol or diesel.

If you are going from Birdsville to Oodonadatta or the other way west to east 200lt would be more than enough if you are running a petrol and 140lt if it is a diesel.

I think I used 100lt on the last crossing, west to east.

One jerry can will get you through plus what is in your tanks.

I would put as little as possible on the roof rack.

What time of year are you planning to do the crossing and in what direction?

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 22:28

Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 22:28
Will be going West to East . Plannint to go from oodna to dailhousie , then french and Qaa line , Car now has 90 lt main tank , 90 ltr gas tank ( but you use 2 ltrs of gas to every ltr petrol ) so effectivly call the gas tank a sub tank of 45 l . ans I have a 20 ltr jerry on the rear. So all up say 150 ltrs of fuel
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Follow Up By: DukeAtty - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 07:50

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 07:50
I would expect you to chew through around 150litres on your trek...ULP...
We did the long way round (rig road) and used 200litres in a 3litre gq ulp...
Be careful filling up at Pink Roadhouse,,, use a stocking to filter the fuel... You will never forgive yourself if you cant make it up Big Red because of bad fuel...Talking from experience...
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Reply By: rolande- Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:26

Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:26
Eric,
Cheap option? Use the boat tank, fill it at the last moment and then empty it into your tank as soon as there is enough room. Don't wait till the tank is empty before filling. I assume the tank is vented? Don't want any nasty surprises in the middle of nowhere. TUFF 80 should be fine without a long range tank
Roland
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:40

Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:40
I was going to ask the same question, the boat fuel tank sits lower thank some jerry cans on the roof.
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:18

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:18
They are even better if they are soft cell types like we use in the bow of the Surf lifesaving inflatables.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:45

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:45
Your dad didn't mention you were in SLSA. What club ?

Ps: Gannamatta rocks lol
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:57

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:57
The best club in the west of the state.....
Port Campbell
The old man said you were in Gunnamatta the other day when Truckster was down.

Port Campbell boaties rock!!!
even more when I was rowing!!!
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 14:19

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 14:19
You can keep your Long boat racing lol , too much effort getting up at 5 am to train with morning fresh on the boat seat . I think ill stick to IRB racing , cheers
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Reply By: Member - Glenn P (SA) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:10

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:10
Hi Eric,

Just one thing, I run a Deisel vehicle now but about 6 years ago we done the SD with my vehicle and another running petrol/LPG. Word of warning don't run you LPG tank down to nothing. If you travel over rough roads with an empty Gas tank they have a tendancy to shake the bolts loose in the sender unit. I still remember laying under my rig with an allan key slowly creeping these bolts up with gas whisling past me, not a great feeling. We didn't hear the leak until the 70ltrs of gas was in the tank. Had a freind have the same problem at Kulgera after going out to Chambers Pillar. Leave in about 10ltrs and you will have no probs, with the pressure against the sender.
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Reply By: Member - Glenn P (SA) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:10

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:10
Hi Eric,

Just one thing, I run a Diesel vehicle now but about 6 years ago we done the SD with my vehicle and another running petrol/LPG. Word of warning don't run you LPG tank down to nothing. If you travel over rough roads with an empty Gas tank they have a tendancy to shake the bolts loose in the sender unit. I still remember laying under my rig with an allan key slowly creeping these bolts up with gas whisling past me, not a great feeling. We didn't hear the leak until the 70ltrs of gas was in the tank. Had a freind have the same problem at Kulgera after going out to Chambers Pillar. Leave in about 10ltrs and you will have no probs, with the pressure against the sender.
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Reply By: fozzy - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 07:28

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 07:28
eric
agree with above-tank should be fine on roof for the 2-4 days across desert
personally wouldnt fill til either oodandatta or mt dare depending on where you go as last fuel stop and like above empty in as you go.
other people have more weight than that up top.
just make sure it is tied down really,really,really well(and make sure everything else in car is secure) and maybe carpet or something under it to stop rubbing.
have a great trip.
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Reply By: duncs - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 09:47

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 09:47
Eric,

Just as a guide we did the Simpson in Oct 03. I have a GU 4.2TD was towing a camper and used 130l between MT Dare and Birdsville.

We travelled via French Line then down Colson Track to Rig Rd back up to the QAA anf then back to the French and across Big Red into Birdsville. Total of 600km betwen Mt Dare & Birdsville.

I think the boat tank should be OK but do you need it?

Duncs
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:31

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:31
I'd be cautios about the plastic tank holing, or rubbin thru, or even splitting... Then your dekcuf...

Go the LRT.. If you dont use the fuel, BIG DEAL, but if you DO happen to use that amount, You will be happy.
You will hate the world if you ran out of fuel. remembering things happen with tanks, EG few on a club trip yrs back 2 cars split tanks within 200klms of each other..

TMNHTY,BIM...
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Reply By: Gus77 - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:35

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:35
Eric

I did the Simpson two years ago in a duel fuel 60 series. I carried 60 lites extra petrol and used it before I tapped into the gas. I reserved the gas to last as it was the only thing I couldnt re-fuel on.

On our way up to Dalhousie I stopped into a servo and picked up a map produced by the SA equivalent of the RACV which showed all the fuel locations and where were the places you could get LPG. This was very handing for fuel management planning. We were surprise however that quite a few places must have recently started keeping LPG as they were shown on the map as not having some.

I wasnt too concerned about running out of petrol however. I was travelling with 3 diesel vehicles and reassured by the fact that if I ran out one of them would have to go get me some! Would have been a nice couple of days in the desert!

Cheers

Angus
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Reply By: Member Eric - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:48

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 13:48
Would be great to hear from people who have done the the French and QAA Line in the following vehicles to get there fuel stats .

80 series 4.5 petrol
4.0 l Dico petrol
Prado 3.4 petrol
V6 Petrol Jack

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Follow Up By: fozzy - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 15:17

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 15:17
eric
about 3 yrs ago in 80 series 4.5pet man no roofrack,285/75/16 A/t running think 22psi used about 150 litres-had long range tank(approx 270l),2 adults, 73 autofridge and slide (33kg and maybe 20kg)all the other stuff incl about 80 litres water and 3 slabs-so u could say we were pretty heavy
went east-west
cant remember which track comes first but QAA then rig rd to lone gum then French line
may be french line/ rig then QAA

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Follow Up By: fozzy - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 15:21

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 15:21
eric
sorry forgot to say we skipped mt dare and straight to oodndatta from dalhousie as we all had sufficient fuel supplies. i thought i would have used a lot more.
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 15:27

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 15:27
eric
sorry should have thought about reply bit more but keep getting interrupted here at work(should get my priorities right hey) hehehhe
should add did most of desert in high range 2nd and opened her up across some of the flats
can make a difference i suppose for fuel economy ie high/low
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