Konis for GQ LWB

Submitted: Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 19:58
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Hi all,
I have recently replaced my front shocks with Rancho 5000 and must say they are very soft, and somewhat disappointing. I also need to replace the rear shocks, and have decided to steer clear of Rancho.
Others have mentioned other brands inc OME, ToughDog, TJM XGS etc and although these brands have what appear to be satisfied customers, I have decided to go with Koni's.
I have had them on other vehicles a few years back and they were superb, can anyone advise where to get the best price on Koni for the GQ?
I remember they were distributed by Proven products some years back, but not sure now where is the best place to find them.
Thanks in advance
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 20:05

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 20:05
Hi swine, you may need to let us know which state you are in. Top performance in vic are the main distributors i think.
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Follow Up By: Swine Hunter - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:48

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:48
Hi Brew,
Forgot to mention I am in NSW.
Thanks
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Reply By: Ferret - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 20:11

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 20:11
If you are in Perth, have you still got the old ones as I'm looking for some old spares, front and rear, to take on a 3 month trip.
Ta
Scott
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Reply By: Vinnie - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:23

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:23
Swine

I ditched my Rancho 5000 and put on Rancho 9000 series and that made a big difference as 1 is super soft for hard offroad and on the black top I set `em at 5 for a good ride. As they wear you can turn them a a notch until they get to 9 and by then I hope it is a lot of K`s on the clock for long wear.

Vinnie
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:43

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:43
Ranchos are crap on large trucks. Mine died 3 times before giving up .. they were 9000's and 9x's.

I now have OME LTR and Nitro charger combo.. They have had a few work outs up Rocky, Vicrange etc up the high country, and they flex like hell with matched springs.

Your most important thing is to MATCH SHOCKS AND SPRINGS WITH YOUR TRUCK.

some people just buy stuff and hate the world when they dont work.

Koni are well and truly the best. No doubt.
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Follow Up By: Hero - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:28

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:28
I accept what you are saying, you should match the coil and shock, but is there a coil designed to specificly work with the Koni Shock.
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Reply By: desert - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:59

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 21:59
As someone else said, it is very important to match shockers to springs. I have found that OME nitro's cannot control springs with a wire dia. greater than 16mm. They work, but are not perfect and will fail prematurely, with tell-tale oil leaks from the top seal. They are an OK replacment shocker with standard coils. By using a Rancho 9000x, you are effectively buying 9 different shocks that you can alter to find the ride you desire. Koni's are a good shock, but are they better than a rancho at $100 ea cheaper? Plus they are not as easy to adjust on the road. I've had several sets of OME and they have all leaked. I'm running Rancho's now, same truck, same springs (18mm) and no problems to date, (3 years).
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 23:13

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 23:13
Using Sticks would be better than Ranchos.
Must be just bad luck in the Melb Nissan club with failures..
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Follow Up By: desert - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 09:55

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 09:55
Yes, I've heard of those horror stories, but I can't fault them! In what form are these failures that you speak of? Could it be a mis-match in lengths? stroke etc? Physical breakages perhaps? What exactly is the failures you know of?
My Rancho's have done the hard yards in the high country. Ther've done Cape York. Ther've done several cross-country desert treks. I run several different spring rates depending on the trip, but the Tare of the truck is 2.5 tonne, I run them around town on setting No.1 for a soft ride, can't complain.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 23:05

Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 23:05
G'day pig-shooter,
I had Koni's before on my GQ and also had them on my GU until about 9 months ago. I couldn't break them on the GQ, but did manage to blow the seals on the GU's units after about 120,000klm. I know I could have had them re-built, but that would have meant having no wheels for for a week or so. So I gave them away and bought XGS's. These have been to the Cape as well as a few other ordinary tracks and are holding up very well so far.
I agree that the LTR (or similar) type with a remote canister would be the best option, but big bucks and can't justify on my old rig.
I've heard too many horror stories about Rancho's but also know a couple of blokes who like 'em, even on Patrols and Cruisers.
Cheers and good luck...
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Follow Up By: desert - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:05

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:05
As I said above, I can't fault the Rancho's, the 9000's, I have not had any experience with the 5000's. But, I admit that I would like to try a pair of Tough Dog's on the front, just as an experience, for the next desert crossing. I had, over the years perhaps 6 different sets of OME's, and every set has failed by way of leakage of fluid passed seals. I've had Gabriels that I've simply worn out. I've had Monroe's that just couldn't get the valving right.I've had Bilsteins on a Rangie which were the ants-pants, but they were crap on the Nissan?!
A continual learning curve, I suspect.
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Reply By: Swine Hunter - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 23:05

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 23:05
Thanks to all who have replied.
Today I got Koni rears for $214 each from a very helpful guy at Climax suspensions in Thornton (Newcastle/Maitland area)

Out them on and wow what a difference on road, will try off road this weekend, and next week will get the fronts to replace the Rancho RS5000's on the car.

Cheers,
Wayne
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