which shower

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 18:31
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thinking of getting a shower for the gu, just not sure which one?
piranha power shower, twine or glinde?
are they all similar?
any info appreciated, also what you paid for complete kit(with pump etc) and if you pump water from a tank or bucket
thanks
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Reply By: Moggs - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 19:39

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 19:39
I'll put a vote up for the twine, however I am sure all you have listed are quality products and will do the job.

I paid $450 for my setup and the reason I went with Twine was because they provide vehicle specific mounting hardware and instructions - swayed me in their favour over the Glind as I wanted to install it myself to save a few bucks.

The only other 'in car' system you might want to consider is the Helton Heat Exchanger - might be able to get it set up a bit cheaper than the others.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 20:33

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 20:33
G'day,

I agree that the Twine is a great unit. I've had mine for about 5 years; paid about $350- (from memory) and fitted it myself (dead easy on a 4.2 T/D). I also helped a mate fit a twine to his 3L Nissan Patrol too.

The price of the glind and twine were pretty much the same when I bought mine, but i chose Twine cos of the copper heat exchanger versus the plastic glind. Piranha is (I think) the same as the glind, but just has different lables; I could be wrong about that though.

Good Luck

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:31

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:31
Tripod for the fire - metal bucket to heat water in - a few plastic buckets to mix water in - 12V SLA battery, $25 shower, tree (or roof rack) to attach shower, soap - that's it.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:35

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:35
A Twine, a river, a long hose - start the car, flick the switch, unlimited running hot water :) - pure bliss!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:39

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:39
Mikes idea while standing in a 40/60ltr container - also hot water for long enough to have 2 showers... Still $25!
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Reply By: Member - Paul M (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 20:11

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 20:11
checkout this site,www.aussiecampshower.com,makes life a lot easier
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Reply By: Member - Paul M (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 20:12

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 20:12
checkout this site,www.aussiecampshower.com great stuff
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:06

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 21:06
I have been going through all of this too.

Went and discussed with NUMEROUS club members..

More than 80% said to go with the $25.00 ones.. So I did today at that crappy 4b show in Melb... None with the $400 ones really said there were many advantages for how often they are used. If the $25 one dies, then your still ahead.

And one handy tip, if you have your shower while standing inside one of those 40ltr storage containers, you can have a 10+ Min shower reusing the warm water!

Then have a container on the side of that with some clean water to rince with..
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Reply By: Seanny - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:07

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:07
Dear great unwashed,

Why pay an exhorbitant $25.00 when the $19.95 jobbie, on special around the traps, works just as well.

Seanny

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:12

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:12
I got mine at Jaycar for $19.95 lol I tested it tonite and it works a treat.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:16

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:16
I wanted blue.. they didnt have blue for $19.00 :(

Mine still in the box.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:30

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:30
hmmmmm never seen a blue only those orangy tan ones

Leroy
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:11

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:11
Hey Mr Z

Agree with a few of the others, the twine shower is great. A all copper made unit seems to work better than the plastic versions

crazie
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:27

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 22:27
As opposed to most here, I went for the Glind.... as Toyota did when they evaluated both it and the Twine as a "Toyota Genuine Accessory". The Twine looks agricultural and home-made in comparison to the Glind IMHO. I'm sure it's very well made as there are thousands out there every day.... but the Glind appears to be made just that much better. The "plastic" is a very string glass-filled nylon jacket around the heat exchanger core, and in my mind offers better insulation over the copper jacket on the Twine. The mounting brackets are very strong (moulded in) and have never failed me after 4 years of solid use.

Horses for courses...... but the $25 ones are a PITA and while some people get off telling the rest that these are all you need - they haven't had the luxury of a proper shower that can keep going for hours (if you are so inclined). I run mine from either a 20L jerry or a creek. Given the amount of heat control you have through adjustment of your car's heater control - I've calibrated our heater control knob with the words "Jenny" and "Chris" - giving us both our ideal temperatures every time.
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 23:12

Sunday, Feb 20, 2005 at 23:12
I agree Chrispy, those $25 showers from Dick Smith / Jaycar / Camping stores are a PITA. I started out with one of them and the spring that held the shower head hose on kept working loose, the hose was too short, the pump wouldn't stay submerged etc etc. In the end I also got sick of heating up water on the stove.

With the Twine we can shower 2 adults, our 5 year old daughter and heat enough water to fill a crate to wash the bub with ease. Just have to throw up the pop up shower tent and away you go. We also use it to heat up washing up water after meals, just recirculate in the tub until piping hot.

Another use - we wash our cars with the Twine - we just attach a long garden hose to the shower outlet and pump from a 25 ltr container - works really well.

My wife scoffed at the price of the Twine, but now loves it - I bet if it busted that she would insist it was replaced before the next camping trip.

One other thing for those with them fitted and the on/off switch under the bonnet - I happened to find my pump running one day and it had been for a number of hours - must have bumped the switch without noticing when under the hood. Solved this by buying a "missile switch cover' from Jaycar for $9.95. Just fits over the existing switch and covers it completely and is hinged. Cheap insurance when compared to the price of replacing a burnt out Shurflow p
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 07:34

Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 07:34
Moggs - yup - the 'ol missile switch is what I use under the bonnet too.... as the primary "arm" switch.

I have a second waterproof (rubberised) switch mounted on my front grille - and it's reached from inside the shower tent and turned on when the occupant is actually ready to shower. Comes in handy too when soaping-up. You just flick the switch and stop the water flow temporarily.

I also plumbed the inlet and outlet to my bull bar with Pirtek SCREW-ON fittings. I used the common garden hose quick-disconnect fittings for a while and no matter what you do, you will always get air bubbles in the inlet line after a time. Screw-ons fix this problem completely. By having them mounted on the bullbar, I don't have to keep the bonnet open at all just to connect hoses.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:37

Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:37
Like you guys. Now converted , never go back.

We used the DSE $25 jobbie for a while. Might work ok , for 2 people. DOESN'T work for 6. They just cant handle heat for too long.

Our's is the McPauls , which is now a Piranha.

Flowjet pump (smaller brother of the Shurflow) , and we can happily shower 6 (including Wife and 16 yo daughter) , who now happily go camping because of it.

Either creek or recycle , and shower as long as you like.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 15:29

Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 15:29
Tested out my $25 one last night, with Cameron standing in a plastic box.. He was in there for over 10mins and was very happy, to the point I couldnt get the little chit out of it!

Works well, I dont know how long some people have showers for, 10 mins isnt long enough? It works well and truly good enough to clean yourself.

If you have enough water, eg River side etc.. while one is in the shower, boil the billy again for the next. 'endless hot water'...

or have one of them 20ltr bucket things with a spout on them that you fill from top to get the water to come out of the spout.. You could boil up for multiple people.. then just fill the plastic box your standin in each time. Use the old water to clean windows and car as you go.

If you have enough money to blow go the $400 one but it doesnt do much more than the $25 one..
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 16:20

Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 16:20
Its not only about time though T.

Pressure is another , especially for women and washing hair.

It took a lot longer for the females in our family to shower , because it took longer to wash the "stuff" out.

The new pump . . . job done.

I do like the recycling idea though , especially for the boys who NEVER wash their bloody hair. I run an inline filter on mine that takes most of the crap out anyway.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 23:09

Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 23:09
Filter sounds like a plan dude. Where did ya get from and what sort etc??

Cammo is 5 doesnt have much hair. Im 37 and working on it.. :(
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 23:54

Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 23:54
Truckster, didn't your shower come with a foam filter insert inside the submersible pump??

I have a garden irrigation mesh in-line filter in mine. Really fine mesh cone that seems to catch a lot of crap.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:41

Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:41
Yep , same as Moggs , actually . . . I pinched the idea OFF Moggs . . . lol . . .
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:59

Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:59
Moggs, havent looked at the pump end yet, havent had a chance... :(

Will check it out, any photos of how you did it? Did you cut the line and fit it in there somehow?
thanks
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Follow Up By: flappa - Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:19

Wednesday, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:19
T

either the end of the pump will have a screw top , and the foam filter (which looks and feels a little like a brilo pad) , will be tucked in there , or a couple of screws will hold it down.

My filter is just connected to the hose end that goes into the water container. Works well with a bucket , but doesn't quite fit in the jerry can. Might just have to knock a few edges off it, to fit.

I didn't fit the filter into the hoses on the vehicle , because I wasn't sure how they would take the heat ?
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:23

Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:23
Get a Coleman and u dont need the car next to u wasting fuel...!!!!
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 14:52

Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 14:52
GU ST 4,2Tdi $59,950.00
Onboard shower setup $450.00
Kids fed and to bed early $0.00 but a lot of yelling and screaming.
Roll the Patrol into the river $0.00 but a little effort.
Endless hot shower for two by moonlight..... PRICELESS.
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Reply By: Moose - Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 14:57

Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 14:57
G'day Mr Z. We used a bilge pump type for many years (it cost a lot more than $25 but it lasted for yonks). Worked well but we had to heat the water first. That would be the only draw back I can think of. Whilst we were still waiting for the water to heat the others had showered and were having a coldie. So when the little pump finally tuned up its toes we joined the "elite" and installed a Glind. Did the instalation myself and it was quite easy. I did need to manufacture my own bracket as I wanted to mount it in a spot other than that recommended by Glind. It is so easy to get a bucket of cold water and have it come out the shower rose hot. Cost was about $400 so they are not cheap. But I would not go back to the old way. If money is not an issue go for it. BTW - beware of drawing water from a creek - make sure you have a good filter especially if it's a sandy bottom creek. Mate once decided to draw directly from very clean looking running creek. Has the intake floating near the top but it turned out the sand was in suspension and could be seen. Pump took in a gut full of sand and stopped after a while. He managed to clean it out and got it going again - so the Glind's are tough!
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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 21:58

Monday, Feb 21, 2005 at 21:58
Like others, I find the $25.00 jobbie works well enough for me and my Bride.
(Actually, I think my Coleman battery operated unit cost more like $38.00)

Only complaint I have is that it costs heaps to run. We use a bottle of red while we wait for the water to heat:-)

If I gave up drinking, I would probably buy a gas fired Primus, or Coleman unit.
Much more flexible than the "tied to a car" solution.

Then again, if I gave up drinking, I would probably give up camping too.

See Ya!
Bill


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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 07:56

Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 07:56
hehe... :)

Shared sentiments here.

We really need two "fuel" gauges. The one labelled "diesel" I can live with wherever it points, but the "other fuel" gauge.....it's TOTAL disaster if it's anywhere near "E"!

Camping and wine = relaxation.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:18

Tuesday, Feb 22, 2005 at 09:18
"Give up drinking" OOHHH the thought of it!!!!
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