WARNING on Toyota/Honda hybrid vehicles

Sparkie,

you should know it does not reduce pollution it would just shift it elsewhere. In Victoria it actually would increase greenhouse gas with the brown coal generated electricity.

Take your point on the potential terrorist in the swimming pool though. Even the requirement to keep your distance as a firey. WOW

Keep your culture up mate, I try here. LOL

JohnR

What do you mean when you say:

" In Victoria it actually would increase greenhouse gas with the brown coal generated electricity" ?

KA, I am speaking comparatively here as brown coal is a dirty electricity producer.

The Melbourne Age 14th February 2005 talking about the Carbon State, not the Garden State, says " In fact Victorians are among the worst greenhouse polluters on the planet. Every Year, each of us is responsible for producing an average of 24 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions, to put that in a global perspective, even the average American produces fewer emissions - 21 tonnes - than we do." and further " a large part of the answer can be found two hours east of Melbourne in the Latrobe Valley, where the coal fires never stop burning."

Brown coal is the dirtiest electricty producer and we have 500 years supply. Black coal but better still gas is cleaner. There are other nations that rely quite a bit on brown coal too that may need to change.

The biggest contributors of power to Victorias power grid(Yallourn, Loy Yang and Hazelwood) are still coal fired... Backed up by a couple of "eco-friendly" natural gas stations. I reckon if everyone in Vic bought one of these hybrid cars and we all plugged them in at the same time, we could crash the grid... Now that would be fun

JohnR

I understand the term 'brown coal' and 'greenhouse effect etc'

I am confused about what that has to do with the Toyota Prius. It seems as though you are saying that the Prius is 'plugged into a power point to charge it's batteries and therefore it will somehow contribute to the greenhouse effects.

If this is what you are saying then you are totally off the mark.

I guess you havent looked at the Toyota website to even see how the hybrid works. Bit naughty of you if you havent :-)))

Take a look here and you might see why I am/was confused by your comments

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2005/prius/key_features/hybrid_syn_drive.html

check out the drop down menus and in particular the one titled "Highway Cruising'

Last sentence:

" ...the key to why the Prius never needs plugging in'

Hey there,
an alternative argument.
through having higher carbon dioxide in the atmosphere virtually all plant life grows better, better yielding fruit trees, cereal crops and the rest.
as for greenhouse effect the jury is still well and truly out. the current temperatures are the same as when the vikings were active, we have had a little ice age since then and the very minor warming that there has been in the last 200 years, most of that was before 1940, well before emissions really ramped up. since 1940, did you know that antarctic temperatures have fallen, all be it by a fraction of a degree. Don't believe all that the scare mongers tell you.
fossil fuel availability and it's efficient use should be more of an issue than emissions
now, isn't this a 4wd forum.
have fun guys,
NickR

That stuff gets absorbed into your body if you come into contact with it with bare skin .Once in it eats calcium so no more bones and as far as we know there is no fix except ,off to the chop shop ,remember Harry Potter with the bendy arm .

Car maker these days only really worry about what happens when the car is having the prang not after when it's spewed everything all over the road or it's on fire.

mmmmm, nice stuff eh!

used to be you only had to worry about the battery or the lp tank, now the damn car will just disolve you instead.