Tyres on New Patrol

Submitted: Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:27
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Hi,

Are the tyres on new patrols straight out of the yard any good?
I'm leaseing a new one (3L ST-S) in a couple of weeks and the lease covers the cost of replacment tyres down the track

Should I be looking at replacing them before I take delivery, or wait 30-40k then put some Coopers on it then (I say Coopers as its what I currently have on my DX which I've been happy with)

Paul
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:40

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:40
What do you intend to do with the car? Offroad, or just transport?

Most people trade them before driving out..
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Follow Up By: Paul - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:14

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:14
Sand, Gravel, Tar. (Maintained roads)

Don't initally plan to do serious offroad in the first year and a bit.

PAul
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:17

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:17
The std tires will do fine, although they wear out real fast. EG 30-40k klms depending how you drive, who you are, where you are, and who you listen to!

IF you have the coin, updating now could be cheaper in the long run.
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C.- Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:27

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:27
Hmmm..... How long is a piece of string???
Tyres can be a very subjective issue....

What are the Patrols comin' outa the yard with these days?

The original Bridgestone Dueller H/T's that were on mine did 60+ thou. K's before I put 'em the (tandem) trailer, where they've done close to another 20 thou., & there's still some life in 'em yet.... & they've seen plenty of off-road, too!...
Only ever had to get 'em balanced once (when the vehicle was new), wear is even on all 5, & they've never had a puncture, so you might say I'm pretty satisfied with these tyres.... YMMV ...

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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 19:26

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 19:26
My 2003 Patrol came with a/t's Bridgestones, i think its standard now, my 1999 patrol came with h/t's..
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Reply By: Utemad - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:04

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:04
Not sure about your lease but the one I have had on company cars before stated that the replacement tyres had to be the same as factory fitted. This was for Commodores at a place I worked at so I didn't care but I'd be checking if I were you.
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Follow Up By: Paul - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 16:20

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 16:20
Leaseplan say they calculate the amount based on the original tyres.
over 5 years they are expecting me to go thru 3 sets @ $1200 a set

Nissan fitted tyres must have gold plated walls as everyone is indicating they don't wear well.
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Reply By: Tim (vic) - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 13:57

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 13:57
Paul
I have a GU111 and after 20,000 k`s the centre tread on the tyres had dissapeared with still plenty on the outside on a set of A/T. There are other threads on this if you do a search and this may help.
It seems that it doesn`t matter what air pressure you run in them it wears out the centre tread. I was lowering the pressure more and more but it mad no difference
How true it is but it seems that the tyres don`t have enough belting and the centre of the tyre throws outward while driving at speed.
Good luck
Tim
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Follow Up By: Patrolman Pat - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 17:11

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 17:11
What tyres are they Tim? My 693 Duellers are doing the same, more noticeably on the rear.
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Reply By: Fusion - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 18:39

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 18:39
G'day Paul,

I picked up a new ST-S in December and had Cooper ATR's put on it right away. 275/70x17.

They have a 90,000km warranty, and cost me about $165 each (x5) for the changeover. Great tyres, I've towed a 1.1 tonne CT up some rocky slopes and they hold on nicely. I haven't done any sand work yet so I don't know what they're like deflated.

The speedo is out by about 5km's at 100 (larger tyres) and I've driven them about 8000km's, so far, so good.

Aaron.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 00:33

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 00:33
Hi Paul,

I bought my new GU in 2003 and had 285/75 Cooper ST's fitted before i got the vehicle home. It cost me $600 changeover ($120 each) for 5 Coopers. Had them for 36,000 kms now and very happy.

The standard tyres are only rated P (passenger car) as opposed to my Coopers LT (Light Truck). Much better carcass construction for any offroad use IMHO

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Dog (NT) - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 10:18

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 10:18
I am about to pick up a new ST-S and am thinking of doing the same thing.

I don't know much about tyres. Are you able to keep the same rims? Was it done at the dealers or can you trade in your new tyres with a tyre retailer?

I'm going to do the Gibb River Road about 3 weeks after I pick the car up, so I'm interested in 'tyres' now...

If I plan on buying a 6th tyre, are the patrol rims readily availible?

TIA,
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 15:55

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 15:55
I kept the same rims, no reason to change (unless you want a different style). As for a 6th rim, I reckon the new 17" will be as rare as rockin horse $hit. I was offered a 16" rim for $250 when I changed my tyres over. Am now cursin I never took the offer up. You will be able to get one thru Nissan, but get your cheque book out... (unless of course you negotiate this BEFORE you sign on the dotted line).

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Paul - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 20:04

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 20:04
Dog,

Did you go the 3L or 4.2?

Paul
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Reply By: Dog (NT) - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 21:32

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 21:32
Paul,

I've got an ST-S scheduled for delivery 9 March, and I'm getting very excited.

I'm about to post another thread asking a few questions about some mods I want done when I pick it up.

Saved myself close to 20k by going through a lease company. I'll have it for two -three weeks and then be taking it to Broome via the GRR and Mitchel Plateu.

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Follow Up By: Paul - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 21:40

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 21:40
Craig?

Send me an email of the breakdown in pricing, and I do likewise so we can get a comparision on the leases

I'm getting a number of factory fitted accessories

I'm just curious.

paul dot meyer @ optusnet dot com dot au
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Follow Up By: Fusion - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 00:27

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 00:27
Hey Dog,

20K ?? I saved almost 10K off RRP and was happy with that! How did you get an ST-S for under $40K ? That is some deal :)

Aaron.
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Follow Up By: Dog (NT) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 09:04

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 09:04
Fusion,

Well the original quote with all the accessories came in around $65K.

That was a straight purchase, and I hadn't haggled at that point. I then decided to go for the salary packaging through my employer. I went through a leasing company that sourced the vehicle for me. They buy as a fleet, so even though I'm only buying one, I get the sort of discount that a fleet purchaser might get. Then on top of that, various tax components get taken off it, so there is savings there.

The end price was $48k, so I guess that not exactly 20K, but its still a big discount.

To be fair to the dealer, its not a fair comparison, and the dealer may have dropped the price further if I'd haggled, but not by those kinds of figures!

Only two weeks to delivery!

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Follow Up By: Fusion - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 10:48

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 10:48
Nice Work ;) It's a great truck.
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