New GU Patrol, range of questions...
Submitted: Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 10:08
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Dog (NT)
Hi,
I'm about to take delivery of a new GU 3.0 diesel patrol, and I've got a few questions that some one may be able to help out with.
I'm trading up from '90 GQ (petrol). I'm going to book both cars into the local ARB (
Darwin) and get them to transfer a couple of things across (roof rack, air compressor and have a duel battery system installed)
First, is there any other little things I should think about getting done while I've got it in at ARB? For example are the standard recovery points on the GU sufficient?
I'm getting an extra powerpoint added to the rear. ARB told me that the rear cigarette lighter socket is only on with the ignition and that the wiring isn't good enough for a fridge, and have recommended a hella socket.
I'm thinking of getting a roof console added as there doesn't appear to be any
good spot for a CB on the dash (and I'd like to get a
HF radio as
well). Or is there an easy radio mounting spot I've not noticed.
Finally tyres...
I'm going to do the GRR,
Mitchell Plat,
Broome and Bungle Bungles over the
easter period. I'm concerned about the 17in wheels and the apprent difficulty in getting spares.
My rolls-royce solution is to buy 6 steel rims, and 6 tyres, and change tyres from the stock tyres to the steel rims when planning on 4wding. Obviously that isn't cheap. Would I be better off just buying an extra 17in tyre and carrying it, and just swaping rims if I get a damaged tyre. I am concerned about alloy rims, which is what lead me to think about buying 6 steel rims.
Or should I just trade in the alloy rims and leave the steel rims permenantly on the vehicle. I am thinking that the advantage of having two sets of wheels is that I could get a more aggressive off road tyre for the steel rims, and still keep a smoother quieter ride for around town.
Looking for some thoughts!
TIA
Dog
Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:16
Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:16
Hi Dog (NT),
Congrats on a new vehicle, always nice to kit them out how you want. Now for your questions:
1. front recovery hook - we have had one pull straight in severe snatch applications. So, while OK for say beach work, get really stuck in mud and you could be in trouble. Having said that, I still have the original Nissan hook!
2. I have fitted rear power outlets (2003 had none) that are powered frpm my 2nd battery, a good move IMHO. I use the Engels socket but also have a standard cigarette socket as many assecories (hand spottie, mattress air pump) utilsie these. I would put a 2nd Hella socket in rather than remove the cig socket.
3. I have a roof console that has my HF, UHF and DVD player. Not much dash space and I am rapt in my roof console, way to go IMHO.
4. My 16" alloy rims are proving to be fine. I have one with a decent scrape on the side (but still round) where a steel sunraysia rim suffered a decent bend on the same
rock. Initially i was considering steel rims but after that am very happy with them.
5. I swapped my tyres for 285/75 Coopers ST after picking up my Nissan before I even got
home. I do not like the P rated (Passenger) tyres standard and wanted LT (light truck), plus wanted to go up a size.
I am very happy with my mods (click on rig
pic below for complete list) and hopefully will give you some food for thought
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: paulpp - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:43
Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:43
Congrats.
Mine is about two weeks away.
Tyres and wheels
After much thought and research I did a swap deal with the dealer and swapped out the new 17 inch alloys and tyres for 16 inch steel wheels fitted with 275.70/16 BFG AT's (Tyres are my choice).
Reasoning
1. choice of 17 inch tyres is currently very limited and they are much more expensive than the equivelant 16 in tyre.
2. Genuine 17 inch Nissan alloy wheels are very very expensive.
3. Little or no gearing change by going with the 275.70/16
4. 17 inch steel wheels are currently not readily available.
5. I needed to stud/wheel/tyre match my camper trailer
6. There is no legality or technical issues with fitting 16 inch rims to the current model Nissan ST /S/L as they are fitted to the DX model in various forms (except possibly with the Ti there may be a technical issue).
So I did a swap deal for 8 steel wheels and BFG AT tyres with the dealer.
Note:- If you go to a 285 or 305 the spare will have rear body and bumber bar clearance problems and you will need a spacer or replacement Kaymar rear spare holder door bracket.
If you do not currently have a UHF CB I think there is a DIN sized blank in the dash. The GME 4400 are DIN sized if my memory serves me correctly.
Nissan
Snorkel -
check the sealing around the air box and have a look inside the air box for a drain hole.
Diff and transmissions breathers all up high?
If the initial gearbox notchiness does not improve or just to get a smoother change try full synthetic oil in the gearbox. Also fixes the hard/impossible to get second gear on cold Toyota gearboxes.
If not already a member try this group
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Patrol4WD/
My thoughts
Regards
Paul P
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Reply By: gregr - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 18:54
Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 18:54
hi dog
just for the record i think as follows
17 inch wheel sucks so swap them if you can
i use std 16 inch steel wheels with bfg all terrains on my somewhat older gu td 3.0 L - i wont risk alloy but the steel wheels are bl**dy heavy to change a wheel
give it 5 to 10 K and then maybe go get a dtronic fitted but DONT tell nissan or the dealer or warranty will defintely become an issue - but my mate who has one will tell you man what a hell of a difference it makes
an arb FRONT air locker is worth its weight in gold in the sand if you tow a ct
and yes do get a decent wire to the rear aux 12 v plug - min 6 mm wire but 8 mm better -
mine has two 8 mm wires and two engel connectors fitted best damn connectors ever as you plug in and then screw them up - yes cost a few bob but worth every cent as cant come undone
apart from that you seem to have it covered
roof console good, dual batts good
good luck
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Reply By: Member - muzzgit - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2005 at 01:47
Tuesday, Mar 08, 2005 at 01:47
My UHF is mounted on the rear of the centre console in my GU. The mic runs up through the hand brake hole, and the speaker is mounted between the gear lever and the dash. If you look in the window of the car, you can't see the UHF, so a good security thing as
well.
You will need a spike protected isolater for the batteries, but ARB should know that.
The rear springs aren't much to write
home about, I had
mine replaced with a 1.5 inch lift, and heavier shocks in the front. It handles much better now, and when its got a bit of a load on the back, it rides level.
Keep the 17" alloys. Put em in the shed and put em back on it when you sell it. They'll be brand new, and will make the car easier to sell. If you need a tyre OR a rim when you out on holidays, getting a 16" steel rim or tyre will be easier than trying to find 17" ones.
And lastly, definately get a
snorkel fitted, and put a pre cleaner "sock" in it.
Cheers,
Muzz
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