Is it really necessary to do all of this to remove a gearbox

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:08
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Why is it so? as Prof Julius Sumner-Miller used to say....................

Looks like the GQ gearbox has to be removed.

The manual says

Remove front seats
Renove centre console
Remove the sill panel covers and the carpet
Remove floor panel and boots and gear knobs etc
Disconnect handbrake etc.....

Seems like a lot to do before getting to the nitty gritty of the underneath stuff......

No not diong it myself. A mechanic with a proper transmisson hoist will do the job.
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:24

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:24
bugger that mate.. With the MQ you didn't have to take all of that out. Seems ridiculas mate.
Whats up with the box

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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:33

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:33
G'day Crazie

There is this noise that needs investigating. Methings its a release or spigot bearing running dry AND the Main Bearing oil seal is leaking....couple of big drops every night. Must fix before BIG holiday. So.........
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:37

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:37
By a real truck Willem.
A nice shiny Troopy would look good in your driveway. LOL
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:50

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:50
How much John?
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:54

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 20:54
you can get to the bell housing bolts ok withought all that fuss willem . Remove concole for gear leavers , the rest is all done from underneath
ITs very Heavy , so be carefull lol
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 21:03

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 21:03
Eric getting my mechanic to do it Im too old and decrepit to take it on lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 21:47

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 21:47
Old and decrepit, not from what i have heard.... party animal i am sure
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 23:12

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 23:12
Willem, I wouldn't listen to that John with a troopy, I do know of an 80 with an engine out at the moment. Something to do with a 5 pot I heard. Don't think it has been mentioned in here so perhaps John hadn't heard.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 23:21

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 23:21
you can only hope ,your Patrol can do as many kms as the cruiser has done John lol
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:36

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:36
Yeah but that Cruiser is a town car driven on bitumen and the odd short stint of mud with an occasional trip north on the black top?????? hahahahaha Oh yes, forgot Robe.....................
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 21:08

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 21:08
Hey Eric, I know a certain 80 owner who was embarrassed this weekend clocking up hours in an IRB doing an inspection of the local tourist attractions along the Ocean Road. Crewing he was ashore and a sea fog rolled in and on calling back to base, they found they couldn't see the pier 150 metres away from the clubhouse.

They ended up getting a Jack rescue craft to do a shore rescue and tow it back. That was after the brave pair managed to enlist the tourist trade to get the boat up the cliffs. LOL Worth a prize at the local awards night?
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 22:34

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 22:34
His name isnt nick by any chance ? lol
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Reply By: Des Lexic - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 22:31

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 22:31
Wilem, If you parked it down near Elizabeth with a note saying don't touch the gear box, the local boys would have it removed for you really quickly.
You might have to hide around the corner to make sure nothing else is taken though.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:37

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:37
You have such wonderful ideas Uncle Des :o)
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 22:54

Saturday, Mar 19, 2005 at 22:54
It does seem a lot of stuff to do, but when I re-read it, and thought about the time involved, it's probably not that bad.

Does a cross member have access through the floor panel boots?

Anyway, you never know, you might find 10 cents under the carpet, or maybe some stash ( forward to Wolfie, c/o ....), or something that you may have thought long lost.

Bit of a bugger that it's panned out this way. I was sure you were on a winner, well, you probably are, but I am guessing that you are out of mandatory second hand dealers warranty?

Use the time whilst the floor coverings are up, to maybe re-route any auxiliary cables, maybe put in a weapon Sub-Woofer in the rear as well ( sure Eric can help out with that one!!).

BIG trip....... please tell...... solo?

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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:44

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:44
Hey Wolfie

Big Trip. Jude is going with me and another mate(GU Nissan) and his swmbo. To Alice, across west to Canning, Rudall River, Pilbara, Mt Augustus, Kalgoorlie, Perth, SW WA, Israelite Bay up the beach to Pt Culver, bush massage to Cocklebiddy, Rawlinna, Connie Sue to Wartburton, Uluru, Finke NP, Alice, Tobermorey, Boulia, Birdsville(EO meet July), Maree, home. Leaving 18 April. 12 weeks or thereabouts. Hope we have enough money for fuel :-(
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 00:23

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 00:23
Hi Willem,
Its the worst job on the planet mate. I remember doing the clutch on my first GQ in my mates workshop. NEVER AGAIN !! Id gladly pay 1000 bucks and have someone else go through it.

Sorry i didnt get to meet you at MS. Was so looking fwd to going.
Take care
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:46

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:46
G'day Son,

Yep you would have seen me in another light at MS lol All lit up!!!

Yeah I am giving the job to the local mechanic with me hovering around getting in the way. Will probably pull down all the inside bits myself.
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Reply By: i3websolution - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 01:01

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 01:01
Hi Willem,
Believe me or not, I have just changed my clutch today along with a new starter motor.
My mate helped me to change it. We started at around 8am (yesterday). It only took us about an hour and half to get everything out (console, seats, all wire connection from gearbox, drive shafts). They are pretty easy.

Then we weld a special stand for the gear box. It worked perfectly. We can't tell how heavy the gearbox was because we never need to hold it with our arm.

The whole gear box just lowered by the trolley jack.

Put it back was another story. This was the hard bit. But just need to be patient and it went in eventually.

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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 09:55

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 09:55
I hope you didnt fit a clutch withought machining your fly wheel , will all those hot spots in it . Or not replace the spigit bush
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:18

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:18
Thanks very much for those pics mate. I have saved them to file for reference so that I can compare the parts damage. Much appreciated
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:39

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:39
G'day Willem,

Have only done a couple of 75's and a 60 series, and did all the seats, floor coverings etc. Seems a PIA, but makes it easier in long run. On the 75's we had the vehicle on service ramp, and used a 2" pipe roped over the cab, and lowered the tranny onto the ground, using an endless chain. Usually have a few "willing" assistants, standing 'round.

Good sense to get the mechanic to do it. Those heavier jobs don't always equate to fun!

Trip to William Creek went well, saw enough of telemetry gear, that we came home last night. Can't beat 'plane travel to get somewhere in a hurry. Left Longreach @ 6am, arrived W.C. @ 10am, and left @ 3pm.

The Committee have a new "shed" erected, complete with aircon, kitchen, office and of course, the BAR! Think it was "opened" yesterday, and a lot of thanks heaped on personnel from Roxby Downs, for their assistance. Good crowd in attendance, and no doubt many would be nursing massive hangovers today.

Good to finally see Lake Eyre, though only a little water visible, up where the Warburton flows into the lake. Would be impressive when it's full. Bit hazy for good photography, but still managed to take about 80 on Linda's diggy camera.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:50

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 14:50
Thanks for that Bob,

Yeah I will do all the light stuff and get the mechanic to do the 'dirty' work.

Yes flying makes things easier. Your own plane or charter?

Hope you got some left over wetness from the cyclone.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 16:43

Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 16:43
Willem,

Thanks followup, no joy with Ingrid, got a real knock-back.!!! Most disappointed, have been stepping on my bottom lip since friday morning.

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Reply By: brenn dog - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 20:00

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 20:00
G'day willem, forget about removing anything inside the car , seats etc, it's all done from under the car , take transfer case of first makes it a lot easier and not the weight,undo shifters from under car with gearbox mount slightly lowered. note.. these gearboxes with transcase on back of weigh about 250kilos so be very careful ..
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 21:05

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 21:05
Thanks mate. Getting the mechanic to do the job with the help of a proper transmission hoist.
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Reply By: duncs - Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 21:39

Sunday, Mar 20, 2005 at 21:39
Willem,

Back in 99 when travelling through the Hill on hols (lived in sydney then) my GQ had an argument with it's clutch. Took it to one of the local mechanics who said he would remove the engine to do the job. He ended up not doing it that way because my engine bay was so chock full of stuff that he couldn't see where to start. I now use this guy to service the GU, he has a great rep in town and has proven many times to know what he is on about.

It is probably just confusing the issue for you, sorry, but it is another option to think about.

Hope the job goes smoothly and doesn't hurt the hip too much
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