ESMAP - Outer Melbourne Directory

Submitted: Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 14:40
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I am looking for a copy of ESMAP directory, anyone got one they would like to sell. Some one at work has one and I have had a look and like it.

Please let me know. adam_craze at hotmail dot com

cheers
Crazie
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 19:44

Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 19:44
I've got one.

But I'm not selling :) Sorry could not resist.

I bought mine a few years back as a "remainder" for $10. The original print run (was it by the CFA?) did not sell well and they lost money on it I understand. Perhaps it shows how much 4WDing has increased in popularity that last I heard these were selling for $70+ on the secondhand market.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 22:05

Monday, Mar 21, 2005 at 22:05
BUGGER... I messaged him earlier to say he could have mine... I suddenly realised I seem to be short one fridge slide for a 110l waeco... ;-))
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Reply By: Grinner - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 11:24

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 11:24
There is a new ESMAP due out very soon, but CFA wont be selling them to the public due to privacy legislation, this applies to all CFA Region maps

Grinner.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:33

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:33
You're putting me on!?

There, surely, can be no data on the CFA maps which is not available from existing sources or from an overflight in an aircraft? How could such information be considered "Private"?

I'm probably more in favour of keeping information out of the public arena than most but this bloody stupid privacy legislation has gone much too far.

Mike Harding

PS. Does that mean my existing ESMAP is now illegal?
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 13:57

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 13:57
I believe the reason the CFA stopped selling these was that they included property owners information printed on the maps to aid with evacuations.

This clearly contravenes the current privacy act and apparantly it would cost too much to print without so they gave up.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 14:26

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 14:26
I have no knowledge of the details of the act but given that name/address info. is available from the electoral roll and (I think?) for property owners the Land Registry and probably the phone book and didn't / don't? some councils sell lists of rate payers - then the whole thing sounds very silly.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Grinner - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 20:03

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 20:03
pjchris is basically right Mike,

The region maps showed the location of properties and the name of the occupants / owners, for whatever reason it was decreed that these could not be sold to the public and were for Emergency Services use only.

The ESMAP is slightly different, as it never showed peoples details, and still wont, it's more that there will only be a limited print run. So your current ESMAP is still legal, you'll just have trouble getting a hold of the new one.

Grinner
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 22:28

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2005 at 22:28
esmap is out of print and about 10 years old in data, if a cfa member, you can download each page off thie website, but it takes ages, I am trying to get a hold of the DSE firemaps books, much better detail and current info. If i come up trumps i'll get extras.

poeple at my work have nice books too :-)))
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 at 13:08

Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 at 13:08
Hey mate

Got one from Blue, ESMAP that is, has some great info.

Glad the calibre of books is good there too

lol

Crazie
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 at 13:20

Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 at 13:20
so, gota get the welder out again do ya ?

yes, lots of brochures etc, lots of shiny things, see ya
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