safty flags

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:38
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Hi all
i am looking forward to a trip soon and have no set plans but may go across the simpson and was wundering what is the requirements for flags, is it compulsory and if so where and what are the dimensions and height required, if not compulsory what would be a realistic size, height and mounting possition as a well as a suitable mounting bracket, also what is best to use for the pole??
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Reply By: Footloose - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:46

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:46
Go to your local 4wd shop who should be able to supply you with all the goodies and information.
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Reply By: Pluto - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:05

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:05
I can't say if flags are mandatory in the Simpson, but they are a good idea anywhere in dune country.

I have a three metre flag mounted to the bull bare, which I have been using for about two years. The feedback I have received on it suggests that it has averted at least two or three head-ons. As such I would recommend the taller, the better.

3 metres is probably a practical limit, as they tend to hit overhanging tree branches from time to time. The down side is the difficulty in storing the flagpole in the car when not being used. There are a number of flags being produced with two part or telescopic poles. They are more expensive than the shorter single piece flagpoles but the extra visibility they provide is well worth it.
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Reply By: Vince NSW - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:13

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:13
Have a look in the archives. This has been covered lots of times.
Flags are not compulsory but should be.
I use a fishing pole blank with a piese of safety vest material on the top.
Got the fishing pole from a garage sale for $10, cut the guides off and stuck the dayglow material on. Held onto Bull Bar with big hose clamps. When you don't need it, stow on the roof rack.
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:21

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:21
I use an old 27mhz Fiberglass Whip with some saftey vest material on it. It screws quickly onto an HUGE old spring base that I had that I have fixed permantally to the roof rack. It stoes along the side of the car next to the door sills (where I also store my annex poles).
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Reply By: fozzy - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:30

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:30
dingo
flag not mandatory but certainly would use one
have a lokk at pushbike shops where can pick up long ones pretty cheap.
worth comparing prices and heights from cple 4wd shops
mounted mine to cb aerial with duct tape or depending on uhf aerial could do same with that
cheers
fozzy
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Reply By: DukeAtty - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 13:38

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 13:38
also keep your uhf radio tuned to channel 10.... that should give you a 2 or 3 km warning...
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 16:06

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 16:06
It's only by good luck that we haven't had more head ons in remote dune country. Not everyone has a radio (they should be compulsary as should flags IMHO). After a few days of riding the rollers its easy to think that there's nobody else coming up the other side of the dune. That could be when it's the most dangerous.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 13:56

Thursday, Mar 31, 2005 at 13:56
Dingo,

A flag is a must but not compulsory, however a Desert Park Pass is compulsory and in the book that you get with the pass it will have all the safty requiments for a desert crossing.

Passes are obtainable from this site.

Wayne
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Reply By: Russel & Mary - Thursday, Apr 21, 2005 at 23:35

Thursday, Apr 21, 2005 at 23:35
by the date of this you'll know I'm a bit late but I've made a flag out of two farm electric fence picket fibreglass rods joined and araldited with a 4" piece of copper pipe. This makes it 2.4metres long and stores inside our roof rack side rails until needed. It attatches at the front right of the rack into a short tube with a little locking bolt. The flag is one of those green/orange flouro coloured jobs that slides on the end and tied through a hole drilled in the rod.
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Follow Up By: DINGO - Friday, Apr 22, 2005 at 10:49

Friday, Apr 22, 2005 at 10:49
it was a while ago but i am only getting to it this week anyhow, thanks for the idea, it sounds fine but i recon i might just use a cheap or 2nd hand 2 piece surf rod was what i concluded. i also drew a bit of a diagram to scale and recon that unless the hill is less than 20 degrees then the flag mounted on the bull bar will be seen sooner than if it were on the roof rack! and if it were <20degrees then the damnger would be far less so i recon the bull bar mount option is the way to go!
Regards Dingo
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