LR Sport ?
Submitted: Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:32
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peterll
I was wondering if anyone has
test driven one of the new LR's ?
All I can find so far is the basics and a nice picture of one running around in Morocco.
Model Land Rover Range Rover Sport Supercharged
Engine type V8, 4197cc
Power/Torque 385bhp @ 5750rpm / 405 lb ft @ 3500rpm
Transmission Six-speed automatic
Fuel/CO2 17.8mpg (combined cycle) / 374g/km
Performance 0-60mph: 7.2sec / Top speed: 140mph
Up til now things were sounding mm maybe but then the price !!!!
Price £57,495 err that's a lot of quids if you ask me
Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:42
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:42
Peterll,
I don't think that there would have been too many
test driven at this date as they were only released to the public yesterday.
Overlander had it as the 4WD of the year and in the February magazine they do have a bit of a story about it.
I saw one at the 4WD show yesterday, it has a lot of bells and whistles, all the more to go wrong, but the vehicle looked good and from what the saleman said it has plenty of go.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: peterll - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:52
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:52
Ah bells and whistles huh ? hmm I can just one sitting outside Hells
Gate and asking the folks if they have any spares !
LR used to build good solid vehicles once (thinking back to the Argentina to Alaska days) Now they seem to be just fancy and very damned expensive, shopping trolleys :)
Electronics and water don't mix !
Thanks for the information Wayne
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:24
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:24
Peter,
that would be an informed decision based on experience of the latest models I presume?
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:29
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:29
About as informed as most negative comments about Land Rovers, Bob. The majority of vehicles have electronic mangement these days and they seem to be reliable.
If you go into water that is obviously too deep in anyone of them you're asking for trouble, but no doubt some would rather give it a go than be seen as wimpish!
Of course if it was a LR the stories would be round every public bar within days, suitably embellished of course.
My Td5 110 has proved very reliable so far and nothing suggests it's going to be any different in the future.
Roll on the GRR in June!
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Follow Up By: old-plodder - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:58
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:58
The way most 4wds have gone with electrically controlled fuel injection, let alone electrical controls on other things like traction control does raise issues for me.
Last October on the way through
Birdsville, I was talking to Theo at the
shell. From what I remember he said about recoveries out of the
simpson desert, it used to be 50% were transmission/drive were the main reasons for breakdowns. In the last few years it is now electrical and mainly ECU engine managment systems breaking down.
Limp mode doesn't seem to work so
well trying to cross dunes!
So maybe a major part of any decision in
buying a 4wd (new or 2nd hand) is the reliability of the management electrics, not just it's 4wd capability.
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Reply By: peterll - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 12:29
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 12:29
Actually my comments are based on ownership over the years of a few LR's.
It was being brought to a halt in at a
river crossing in one of the first with electronic fuel injection that began my thinking that not all was good. (I wouldn't consider 400mm of water all that brave or stupid given the experience we were fortunate to have gained over many years.
And yes, I would still consider the newer models but since Toyota came along with the L78 series I began to wonder. Having owned several LR's from the 60's on I am still most impressed, but based on the older models performance through sand (CSR, Simpson etc.). I still think that the Pan American adventure could not have been done with anything else other than LR but that was long ago.
Yes, Landrovers are a very good vehicle for off-road work although very expensive compared to other similar vehicles ie. Toyota and Nissan.
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Reply By: Exploder - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 20:09
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 20:09
Yep it must be good it's got a ford or BMW engine in it HA HA.
Yep the old LandRover Brillant 4WD when all the systems work not so good when the gearbox blows up arfter 20,000Km not mine. Gess what i drive.
4WD monthly No77 i think has a good right up.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 21:18
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 21:18
Landrover Sport?
Talk about a world of double negatives....
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 21:40
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 21:40
Peterll,
One othe rthing that I noticed about the new Disco. It had a rubber seal around the guards where the bonnet fits. I think it was to seal the bonnet over the motor but for what reason the bonnet had to be sealed I am not sure.
Wayne
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Reply By: snailbate - Tuesday, Apr 05, 2005 at 20:59
Tuesday, Apr 05, 2005 at 20:59
HI all
I dont have to have a oil change every 2500 ks
all Europe models do 20000 k service and do not junk up when not changes are made at 2500ks read the latest 4WD MONTHLY APRIL 2005 PAGE 236 I QUOTE
SAVE $6000.00 on Diesel rebuild '' we Commonly see 3 litre of sludge removed from landcruisers its incredible how bad they get ''
these are diniasores engines they are will go not for ever as toy will have you believe
Just look at other brands ie Jeep are made by Mercides benz in there factory
etc etc
snailbait
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 05, 2005 at 21:16
Tuesday, Apr 05, 2005 at 21:16
YES EVERYONE READ WHAT IS HANDED TO THE MAGAZINES TO BRAIN WASH YOU.... AND BELIEVE IT...
LMAO
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Reply By: snailbate - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:21
Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:21
hi Truster vic
You seem not have a soft spot for 20000 servicing i would say you are out of touch with what eurupen are doining with the desiel engines all of the europen engines use synthic oil and do not glug up like old engine teck does
just look st BMW /VW/MERC/JEEP BUILT BY MERC/ETC ETC JUST keep on paying for 2500k servicing
snailbait
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