Keeping clean with no showers.

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:12
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Hi all

Just read a topic about wanting showers in the Flinders for camping. No arguments there, my wife likes the finer things and I usually don't shower grudgingly. But there have been occasions where we have had to camp with no showers. I don't own one of those showers that goes under the bonnet, and no way I'd pay for a coleman unit. There are also times where water is too limited for either of those options. I thought I'd see what others do to keep clean (if they do). Our 2 methods are to boil the billy and have a sponge bath with only a billy of water. Also, we have found a magic trick that means you use no water and can bathe in a little tent or even in the swag in privacy. Wait for it -

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BABY WIPES!

Who would have thought!

D-Jack
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Reply By: D-Jack - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:13

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:13
p.s. that above was a smily face until my competence in computers got the better of me!
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Reply By: NedKelly - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:23

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:23
I heard there are no showers at the Tuff Truck Challenge (3days) ;) but I guess we'll be having so much fun watching the carnage that smell wont matter ;)
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Follow Up By: Redback - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 21:57

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 21:57
Yeah only to you maybe but others!!!! uuhhh
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:31

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:31
D-Jack

I usually onl;y use the bucket as well with a rag and some soap. Can get squeaky clean with a litre of water. We also have a plastic bag shower for heating up in the sun.

Recently I spared no expense and bought a 12 volt shower from Jaycar. Fill the bucket with water. Submerge the pump, plug shower in to cig lighter and switch on. Cost $14.............too easy :o)
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:53

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 18:53
Fill the bucket with water ? No thanks, in the desert I'd rather drink it :)) Having said that, baby wipes etc are Ok for one or two wipes (no pun intended). But even then you need to actually wash your unmentionables (behind the ears uu :)
Whats the Jaycar like for flow ? Any adjustment ...can you save water without a friend ?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 13:46

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 13:46
Not always in the desert, mate. In the desert you use a damp cloth and some 'smellies'...............

Yes, the Jaycar shower has an adjustment. From a drizzle to a trickle :o)
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:08

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:08
D jack ,,have you ever actually used a coleman hot water system ? bet not cause if you and your swimbo had , you would own one !!!!
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:21

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:21
Undertaker,

No I haven't used one, I'm not knocking them but me personally I'm not willing to fork out for one at this stage in my life. I know if I used one I would want one! Space is also an issue for our family at the moement. I'm sure theyre great though.

The flavour of the thread was to generate ideas for when water is non-existant for washing or very limited, not to knock the other water using options.

D-Jack
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:48

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:48
I have. Picked it up the Thurs before Easter & took it back the Tues after Easter.
To get the Shower to run at the correct press we had to have the unit sitting at least a mt abover the ground.
We tried another unit in the shop and same thing. Salesmans answer was put it up on a chair. My answer, wheres my money.
Have started using the old army canvas buckey again. On gas, no (ONLY 1 ) moving parts & is water is plentiful, you can have 2 gallons per shower.
Vince
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Follow Up By: TheUndertaker - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:05

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:05
Vince .less than $1.00 s worth of the correct diameter tubing from any hardware store to lengthen the hose , flow rate = approx 3lt per min , the only time you wont get your so called " pressure " is if the battery is flat.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:32

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:32
spent heaps of time out bush last year and my trick was to take yesterdays theromos STILL ABOUT 1/4 full for a walk with asponge and a shovel and a roll of dunney paper every morning.
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Follow Up By: Pezza - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:54

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:54
Hi Davoe,

Mate, I'm having a real hard time piecing your 4 items together into some usable info.
So far I've come up with this.....

The dunny roll to unroll as you go to find your way back again,
The shovel to dig out your thong if you encounter any ankle deep mud,
and the sponge to soak up any dribbles from guzzling whatever it is you keep in your thermos ( you neglected to mention the substance ) and squeezing it back into the thermos.
Am I close?

Avagoodn
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 21:05

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 21:05
shovel to dig the hole, dunney paper for usual purposes, yesterdays thermos coz it has comfortably (not hot) water and flannel to por the water on and clean yourself so you are not too offensive in the front of the ute
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:33

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:33
Well I lashed out before my last trip to Innamincka and bought a pop-up shower/toilet tent and a coleman 12 volt shower. Not the $400 jobbie, but the $29.95 one.

Heat some water and place in a large container. (My container doubles as a carry-all on trips and as a crab bucket when I'm crabbing)
This rectangular container holds, oh about 40-50 litres if you fill it, but 20 litres is more than enough. It is big enough to stand in, so one is recirculating the water. (very environmentally friendly hey!)

Now being a gentleman (well sometimes) I invite my Spouse to take first shower, then I follow. The flow rate is adequate. Well let's face it, who cares how long it takes to rinse the suds off? I'm in no hurry when camping.
Well, this works for us and one doesn't need a shower every day.

Geez, I just thought of an improvement!!!
There's standing room for two of us in the tub. Must run this past the Bride:-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:44

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 19:44
Cleansing one's self in recycled filth sort of defeats the purpose LOL.

Actually sounds like a good idea. Still it does require water but limits the waste.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: jackablue - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:04

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:04
I've got the garden pressure pack & changed the top with an underground garden watering system spray head. We have the pop up shower tent with the pockets to hold the shampoo & the soap on tap (kids like to drop a bar of soap). 4ltrs of water will do the 4 of us as we are there for washing not singing. We use the black bag to heat the water, or boil the billy.
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Follow Up By: Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:16

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:16
That's what we use, you get a pretty good shower with bugger all water used.
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Reply By: Exploder - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:12

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:12
hay have you used a solar bag one. They r black thin rubber about 10 litre's and you get 3/4 quick showers out of it. Just leave it in the sun fore 2 hours or on the roof as ya driving.

Or use the good old shower in a can.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:29

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 20:29
We had a fancy underbonnet shower and sold it - too many hassles.

Now we use a 8 litre stainless steel pot ($10) with an added handle, slip it onto the fire until warm, and use the $20 electric shower. Only use about 4 litres per shower when out in the desert or about 8 litres if plenty of water around.

The 12 volt showers will do about a years worth of camping for us before the motor packs up.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: uncle - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:04

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:04
we agree with your set up Phil,wife and I use the same set up and no worries...just pure and simple.!I have a mate who is currently in the Vic high country with the whole family and he has just purchased a coleman set up, and reports back last night that its great so may look into one down the track later on ,anyway cheers to all.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 21:51

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 21:51
I have returned from Venus Bay, where we have just spent 5 wonderful days.

Tracy bought along one of those pop-up shower / change shelters, but her & Rhiannan didn't use it. They opted for a 6 km. drive to Port Kenny caravan park each evening.

This left me alone with the tent, as my son Mark just simply doesn't shower!

All I did was heat a billy ( 3 litre ) to luke warm, and sit down cross legged on the foam mats inside the tent, and proceeded to wash myself like those buggers in India do in the Ganges River.

All very easy, and still have enough to tip over my head when finished. Stand up, & dry off.

We have a small battery operated shower unit, but I only ever use it to decant water from the water containers on the rear of my Honda.

I use "Wet - Ones" to clean my hands & face after meals, and after say changing tyres & stuff.

I have made a horrible & sad observation.............. when I drink Bourbon, and then sweat, I really go off!! Kids won't go near me........... stink too much........... Red wine only for the Wolf whilst camping.............. and some buds..........

Cheers

Wolfie

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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 21:57

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 21:57
The buds, well, that explains a hell of a lot!
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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:00

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:00
Can't beat a heat exchanger worth every bloody cent, trust me every bloody cent!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Penguin (NSW) - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:36

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:36
Absolutely agree, Baz.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 13:41

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 13:41
Heat exchange is the go, the others on this thread obviously haven't tried one,,, sssssshhhhhhh dont educate them LOL
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 15:47

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 15:47
You're right .... I haven't tried one.
What happens when you get up at 6.00am & want a hot shower?
Or, if you get up a 6.00am to go for a drive, leaving others back at the camp?
It was these scenarios that persuaded me not to even look at them!
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 16:26

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 16:26
Me too guys,
great about 10 min to heat and your batt get a bit of a charge at the same time, havent had mine long but its great, all under the bonnet except the bucket and im going to get a canvas one made for that job to hang on b/bar.
Shaker, dont get up at 6?? hahahah have shower at night or wait till 7 when most camps are up and at it!
As for the cheap drop in bucket ones, i agree they work well for a short time, had 2 of them and both died in short time, and know of 2 others that did the same, so carry a spare guys !!
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:02

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:02
When doing remote work for extended periods, we used to 'bird bath' with a dish of water and a few cheap colour coded flannels from Kmart. This is fairly 'extreme' however, and it is far more pleasant just to carry lots of water and $30 12V submersible bilge pump and hose.

When you finish for the day, start with a dish of water and get hands clean with that gritty hand cleaner stuff in a bottle. Wipe as much dust and sunburn cream off first with a towell, then wipe face with a wet yellow flannel, body with blue and under carriage with RED for danger! Baby wipes are real good too.

Carry lots of socks and two pairs of boots so you can 'rest' them every other day. Use talcum powder liberally.

Whenever you squat poo, WIPE AGAIN fifteen minutes later (you'd be surprised!) This prevents the manufacture of the insidious and deadly 'crackjam'. Always sit on an soft towell to minimise 'cracksweat' when driving.

From hard learnt experience, this method lessens the chance of contracting the dreaded 'Baboon's Bum Syndrome' when travelling for extended periods in hot, remote areas with the windows up, no aircon and vinyl seats.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:10

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 22:10
"Whenever you squat poo, WIPE AGAIN fifteen minutes later (you'd be surprised!) This prevents the manufacture of the insidious and deadly 'crackjam'. "

Ah Ha......... the sure sign of a seized sphincter!

Damn good post too!!!

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 23:42

Thursday, Apr 07, 2005 at 23:42
Wolfie, a steady diet of tinned Tom Piper sweet curry, Heinz braised steak and onions and Emu Export beer, finished off with a 2 litre cask of Morris oak cask port 'of an evening' (BTW the only port that comes with its very own silver pillow!) will inevitably result in sphinctorial trauma, distress and siezure, but once the callouses and scar tissue harden you develop a tungsten carbide quoit and you're right for life!

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Reply By: Member - Raymond - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:27

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:27
Hi Jack
When we travelled across the desert and desided that water was for drinking and not for washing we used this product which worked great
Bath in a bag
Regards Ray
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Reply By: Member - Raymond - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:28

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:28
Link
http://www.homehealthdelivery.com/bathing-products.html
Ray
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Follow Up By: thepilot - Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:24

Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 23:24
Hi Ray

Looking at the site , Can you buy them here or just online from the us ?

Dave
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Reply By: gone bush - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 19:43

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 19:43
We have tried a lot of different ideas and products for bush showering, in the end we bit the bullet and paid out $299 for a primus gas hot water system, we were tossing up between that one and the coleman, the problem with the coleman we were told by a sales man (that sold both types) is that they were mainly made as an hot water urn and the primus was made for hot showers. There is no pressure loss when the shower head is held high, The primus also has adjustable heat and pressure, and better still it was $100 cheaper than the coleman. in times of limited water the water can be recycled. Also the size of a primus is about 1/4 of the coleman (just looks like a small tool box). well worth a look.
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Reply By: BigO- Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 20:54

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 20:54
Over the easter week-end we had a camping get together of more than 30 people at Licola in Victoria's high country and everybody showered using my coleman unit. First class and didn't miss a beat. My only modification to the unit was to turf the coleman showerhead (it's not real flash) and replaced it with one of those super efficent heads from bunnings for $10. Heaps of pressure and a long shower uses only 8 litres of water.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 22:37

Friday, Apr 08, 2005 at 22:37
BigO ...... could you give a bit more info on the " super efficient head from Bunnings", please.

I am also more than happy with the Coleman unit, I had a Primus system & found it was far too fiddly to light, wasted water as it had to be running before you could try to light it, also the over temp cut out switch is set far too low & cuts the whole thing off. Although I bridged that switch, we still found it to be a hassle & often couldn't be bothered using it.
The only trade off is the size of the Coleman, other than that .... bloody fantastic!
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Follow Up By: gone bush - Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:42

Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:42
Shaker, by bridging the cut out switch isn't it making the unit unsafe? I must agree that it isn't the easiest thing to light though.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:53

Sunday, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:53
I guess in the wrong hands the water might get too hot, but we have no kids & found the cut off temperature was too low. If the Coleman overtemp cut off trips, it restarts automatically, with the Primus you got to get out of the shower & relight again from scratch!
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Follow Up By: BigO- Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:00

Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:00
Shaker.....sorry for the delay, have been off camping for the week-end. The shower head I got from Bunnings is just the cheapest AAA rated head they had. They are a bit bigger and similar shape to an egg and they have an adjustment knob in the centre of the rose to adjust flow(I have also seen similar types in K-mart). You still need the coleman shower unit for the end attachment that goes onto the water heater. You will find that the coleman shower head screws off the hose and this leaves you with a female 1/2" fitting. You can then attach the new shower head to this. I got a little bit fancy and with the assistance of a plumber mate, made up about 300mm of tube bent at just the right angle with a hanging hook attached and the thread at each end to attach the hose and head. Works great, I could send a photo if you like, just send me your e-mail address.
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Reply By: ozpatrolin' - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:56

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:56
Hi all,

Anyone tried the Zodi hot showers

www.zodi.com

They have a decent range with good options.....also tent heaters

Ozpatrol(QLD)
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 21:16

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 21:16
funnily enough, just saw a Zodi on Ebay....looks great but expensive..... i think it was on the USA site of Ebay.........
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Reply By: Member - Bruce B (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 14:40

Saturday, Apr 09, 2005 at 14:40
At the end of the day pop the bonnet and get your solar shower bag and place it on the TAPPET COVER, keeping it well clear of the exhaust.
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Reply By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:27

Monday, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:27
We have a pop in the cigarette lighter shower, one large billy of hot water into half a bucket of cold is enough for two separate showers :). Not enough for long hair washing though. Carolyn
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