staircase around lake cobler

Submitted: Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:16
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wondering how difficult a section on lake cobler track or might be speculation track called " the staircase"(called that on rooftops map-mansfield-mt howitt map) is.
apparently can be difficult
also what tracks around this area are like in wet conditions.
basically looking at easy quick ways to get from mansfield/merrijig to bright travelling cross country.
or may be quicker just going along bitumen to whitfield then rose river rd to buffalo river rd up to myrtleford and across to bright that way.
what are peoples opinions who know the area? any input welcomed
cheers
fozzy
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:26

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:26
Fozzy,

The Staircase would be challenging going from bottom to top, which I would assume that is the way you will be travelling. In the wet very challenging, even go as far as saying it would be character building.

The quick way would be the bitumen but that is for 2WD vehicles.

I will be decending the staircase after lunch on Sunday so I hope it is dry.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:36

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:36
thanks wayne-yes headed towards the lake is right
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Reply By: ADM - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:32

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:32
We were up there about 18 months ago and had 3 trailers in our group, we all managed without any problems, would be differnet in the wet though. I wouldnt think it has change greatly from then.
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:37

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:37
adm-thanks for reply
-were vehicles set up with reasonable clearance and suspension and assume trailers were campers or just off rd trailers?
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Follow Up By: ADM - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:51

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:51
We had a 100 series with 2 inch lift, 80 series with approx 30mm lift and a GQ shortly with 2 inch lift. The trailers were off road trailers.

We have been up that way several times with a number of different vehicles both raised and standard with the drivers having different experence levels and yet to have any problems. But as I said earlier conditions do change from year to year.
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Reply By: Disco200Tdi - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:48

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:48
Every time I have done it (many), it was quite easy. I think any 4wd with low range could do it no problem.
There are some rock ledges to climb but nothing difficult.

John D
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Reply By: pprass - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:54

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 12:54
Did the Staircase in January going from Cobbler Lake to Craigs Hut and back again and it took ages. One way took about 1.5hrs and it is just 10km straight line distance. Going by road around Whitfield etc would probably be quicker. The actual Staircase was a bit bumpy in places and quite straight forward, but it then depends on your vehicle and how it is set up. Could be different if wet, but we couldn't see that it would be that hard.
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Reply By: Jack2000 - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 13:23

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 13:23
The staircase is not particularly difficult. Only really one short rough section. Basically just stick to the far left as you go up and it's fine.
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Reply By: Member - Gary W (VIC) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 14:19

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 14:19
I agree with the above - the staircase is not a very difficult track - care required in the wet.

The area is pretty tame. We were there for cup week end last year and most tracks are well formed and relatively easy almost like gravel roads (almost). NB: The track from King Hut to Craig's Hut (called King Hut Track) would be pretty difficult in the wet the rest in the King Hut area would be fine - assuming you have some 4wd experience.

Gaz
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Reply By: jackablue - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 16:53

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 16:53
Went up in the Jack just before Xmas from Craigs hut across Cobbler Track through the way you are saying. Not sure what you are driving but it was no problem in the Jack.
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Reply By: Wazza - (Vic) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 19:17

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 19:17
Went down the staircase about 3 weeks ago from Cobbler to King Hut. No problems for 80 series with 2 inch lift (idled down and did not touch the bottom) and Suzuki Sierra with no lift (idled down with a few bangs and crashes). Going up would be a different matter for the Suzuki, but it looked like someone had spent a fair amount of time before us road building with small rocks, etc, and there was a young couple in a vitara that we passed who had just gone up it, I assume they were the road builders....
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 21:03

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 21:03
Gaday Fozzy.
An easy scenic trip would be Mansfield to Powers Lookout. Down the powerline track to Cheshunt. Rose river rd to Dandongadale then over Goldie track behind Mt Buffalo then down into Porepunkah. Any 4by towing a camper trailer could do it in around 3 hours including photo stops.
If you have a full day to get accross & want to see the sights try Mansfield up to Carters rd over Mt number 3. Down Westerns track to Pineapple flat then follow the King river to King Hut. Up the Staircase to Lake Cobbler then take the Abbeyard track to the Buffalo river. Camp creek & Scotchman's tracks into the Buckland Valley. Around 5 to 6 hours all up & suitable for 4by's with plenty of clearance. If it rains & your tyres aren't up to it, bypass the Staircase via the little Cobbler track,the King river via the Circut rd, the rough section on the Abbeyard track via William's Rd & don't dare cross the Buffalo at Camp creek if the river is up.
Log trucks used to cart timber out of the top of Wonnangatta via the Staircase so it isn't particually steep, just washed out & rocky. Carefull wheel positioning will get most 4by's up even in the wet.
Cheers Craig..........
HZJ105 Vic
PS. It always pays to let everyone know what you drive & previous 4x4 experience so we know what to recomend for you:-))
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 16, 2005 at 07:31

Saturday, Apr 16, 2005 at 07:31
Hi Fozzy, we did it in a 88 Paj TD, leaf springs, no lift, great low range, and did it easy, and that was going up. Had been told scary stories about the "Staircase" but didn't even know we'd done it till we looked at the map at Lake Cobbler.

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Reply By: fozzy - Monday, Apr 18, 2005 at 07:57

Monday, Apr 18, 2005 at 07:57
thanks everyone for all your input
cheers
fozzy
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Reply By: darbi - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2005 at 14:47

Wednesday, Apr 20, 2005 at 14:47
I understand that you've got the idea already, but went up the staircase Sunday 17/4. Stock 120 Prado but loaded up with family & gear. Track dry, no problems at the time. Off-side wheel placement a bit hit-miss, but plenty of traction to the left. Rear tyre blew later in the day on bitumen (grand-trek), I suppose it had something to do with the rocks.

About 12 hours prior 4by experience. I'll send you a photo of it thru the w/screen if you like.
darbi
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Thursday, Apr 21, 2005 at 07:25

Thursday, Apr 21, 2005 at 07:25
darbi
thanks for reply
no picture needed
am going support for 15 bikes on weekend and just checking which tracks i can go so i can have some fun and still meet them for lunch on time
as it turns out i will most likely have to go bitumen to meet them in time
i do a bit of homework before trips and had heard track could be difficult
sounds like it is fairly straightforward
thanks again
cheers
fozzy
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