Battery and assault
Submitted: Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 21:40
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Bonz (Vic)
Well I have learned a few things this past week, about batteries. Let me get them in order:
1 A Delkor M31 is NOT the same size as a N70ZZL battery
1a) Swearing doesnt make a battery shorter
2 A Delkor M31 wont fit in a ARB GU 3.0 aux battery tray
3 A Delkor M26 IS (supposed to be) the same size as a N70ZZL battery
4 A Delkor M26 will NOT fit in a ARB GU 3.0 aux battery tray cause they have extra strengthening on the ends of the battery which makes them a tad longer
4a) See 1a) above
5 The reinforcing bits on the end of a Delkor M26 battery can easily be removed with little cutters
6 Dont try to cut off the reinforcing with your reciprocating saw you got for Christmas as it will jump back and then
puncture the side of a BRAND NEW Delkor M26 battery
7 Punctured Delkor M26 (sealed) batteries leak battery acid
7a) Swearing doesnt stop battery acid leaking either
8 Silastic silicone DOES stop battery acid leaking
9 Battery acid on your jeans makes holes in them (I already knew this and now I am showing off)
10 Delkor are good batteries
So in the end I got what I needed, a 80 a-hr marine battery with lots of CCA and lots of capacity, and it finally fitted into the battery tray, and I have to buy new jeans. Oh and I learned lots about batteries.
Reply By: cokeaddict - Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 21:46
Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 21:46
too funny Bonz :-)
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 21:52
Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 21:52
ROFL bonz
I've found that swearing doesn't fix alot of things, but it makes you feel better at the time....
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 22:11
Monday, Apr 25, 2005 at 22:11
Okay Bonz, So now I've just learnt something too...........if I need any battery work done, you'll be on top of my invitation list. (but the invitation will say in BOLD letters..."bring your own jeans") hahahaha
Gee whiz mate, you sure do know how to give yourself some grief though, eh???
BTW, what sort of A/H do the 2 different size batteries put out please...?
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 09:10
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 09:10
Hi Roachie, I could always NOT wear jeans......
M26 is 80 aH
M31 is 100 aH
M31 is about $170 quoted to me, not sure how much the M26 is but i have a great second hand one for sale if you want it hahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 10:33
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 10:33
Bonz with no Jeans = YUK!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:16
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:16
thats a matter of opinion Des hahahahhaah
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:13
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:13
You nissan blokes should all go to Roachies when you do things like this, he has a whole shed full of nissan fixing devices and he could have welded it up for you !!! hahahahah
Im sure you would have looked as good as me without jeans, so you have my permission.
Feeling better Mr Des?, back to your old cheeky self?
Mr. B , cant you get broken case plastic welded?
Cheers mate
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:48
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:48
I just plogged it up with silastic Petsy and it worked fine (at least it is at the moment) then stuck a bit of discarded plastic over the top with more silastic.
Hahahaha go to Roachies, I came HERE when I did something like this ...
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 18:01
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 18:01
Yeh you blokes.....no good coming to my place if you're looking for parts for a Nissan. All the Nissan parts I've got are ON the bloody Patrol.......and all the parts I keep in the shed are for 60 series cruisers (the bits I stop and pick up off the road when I'm following Pesty...hahaha)
Cya blokes
Roachie
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:13
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:13
Morning Bonz
Just wished I could have seen that reciprocating saw in action, especially when it attempted the subject modification.
It must have found the 'long lost terang-a saur'.
Just love when it someone else and not me for a change.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 07:59
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 07:59
You are one funny bugger!!
You SO MUCH need to get syndicated, and have a 4 x 4 improvement show, like Tim Allen's
Home Improvement.
"Good morning viewers, today, we are going to fit a battery into a space that is a little small"
He walks over to the vehicle, with the camera man & sound guy following.
"Here's one we prepared earlier"
Camera pans around, and tilts down, focusing onto the floor, acid everywhere.
"Err, fella's cut please.......... I SAID CUT!!"
We hear the audio still running........." $%^*&#$ Batteries........."
ROFLMAO
Wolfie
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Reply By: Nudenut - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:50
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:50
if only you'd asked......
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Reply By: Diamond (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 12:18
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 12:18
dear bonz.
before you try and fit a delcor in your fourby you will have to romove some plastic reinforcing from both sides of the battery to fit properly.
reason i know this is when i fitted the batery in our tool box with the weaco a normal baterry was easy to fit and remove.
then i fitted the delcor then the fridge.
but when it was time to remove the delcor i couldnt get it out.
hmmm a bit of swearing and panel beating i got it out.
now all i have to do is remove the reinforcing and i wont have a problem.
ps ive been going to remove this plastic for the last 6 months.its getting really anoying everuy time i go to swap baterys.
if you can find an easy way to remove this plastic could you please let me know.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 12:20
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 12:20
Hi Diamond, I used a small pair of cutters that look much like pincers, you can borrow them if you want, they took the plastic off easy.
If only i'd asked.........
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 13:03
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 13:03
Sodium Bi Carbonate and water, just dissolve a few tablespoons in about 200ml of warm water, neutralises battery acid. Wear safety goggles and globes (jeans are optional but if not wearing suggest cricket box as minimum). Wait til fizzing all stops and wash with COPIOUS amounts of water to remove residual
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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 13:07
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 13:07
Sodium Bi Carbonate and water, just dissolve a few tablespoons in about 200ml of warm water, neutralises spilled battery acid. Wear safety goggles and globes (jeans are optional but if not wearing suggest cricket box as minimum). Wait til fizzing all stops and wash with COPIOUS amounts of water to remove residual
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 13:32
Tuesday, Apr 26, 2005 at 13:32
Bonz, I know you don't usually ask for trouble, but I could have loaned you a stainless ruler to measure the suggested battery box, or even my usual advisors phone number to get it right. Heather suggests that my other suggestion of a circular saw or angle grinder would have been would have already been on your list of repairs - after the swearing.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:49
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:49
John I did consider the angle grinder, actually I started with a hand held saw, but it was too slow and I needed something faster to make my day even worse hahahahahahaha
I hope it all stays together.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 14:08
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 14:08
LOL, Bonz you obviously weren't swearing loud enough. Sometimes banging your fist on the object while swearing also helps... Or kicking something really hard only to find that your NOT wearing your steel caps. LOL
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Reply By: DeanoNSW - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:41
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:41
Bonz,
what is the length of the battery that you have fitted.
I faced a similar problem, as I was trying to get a larger battery (SCS225 - Trojan) into my battery tray - 130 Amp Hour.
I have worked of the specs off the site and extended the battery tray to fit a 340mm long battery.
I haven't bought the battery yet, but I can fit something up to 340 mm.
The mod was not that hard to do, with the help of a good sheet metal guy.
The original tray was a pirhana tray, designed only for the N70ZZL battery (300mm long) I folded both ends down flat, and got 10 mm off one end and 30 off the other. The rear end needed another side welded on, and the support arm was re-welded on.
I am interested about the Delkor batteries. Are you happy with them. Why did you go for the Delkor ?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:48
Wednesday, Apr 27, 2005 at 20:48
the DElkor came with a great rap, from lots on here as well as a few in the trade, especially ther marine range M24, M26 etc.
The M31 is about 30 mm longer than the one I got and it wont fit due to the things around the tray not the tray itself, like the air cleaner and things. The N70ZZl is the largest that'll fit
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 00:23
Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 00:23
I got a good century battery forsale dude :)
140klms old!
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