Larger fuel tank for Surf

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00
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I own a 1994 Surf, which despite opinion to the contrary has been the best vehicle I have owned. The only problem is it has a very small fuel tank - 65 litres. This gives it a range of only 400-450km around town, as the diesel engine isnt the most economical. I have heard that it is possible to fit a Patrol tank as a replacement for the original Toyota tank, has anybody heard of or done this? If so, can they advise what size the Patrol tank is and any problems associated with the fitment. I am looking at fitting a long range tank some time down the track, but this may not be such an urgency if a Patrol tank fits.
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Reply By: Truckster - Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00
You can use a GQ tank, and they are 95 ltrs..

If what I remember is correct, you fit it under the rear with a little bit of work.
The problem is you need the GQ sender etc, and thats the expensive bit.. $400+... Rare as rocking horse poo at wreckers.

Longranger tanks etc are not much more than that...
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00
Let me rephrase that... $400 all up with fuel guage recalibrated, tank the lot...


From another list, about a lux, presuming they are the same as a Surf.
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I just finished putting one in my 84 lux last weekend, I put mine behind the diff ( where the spare wheel carrier USED to be ) just removed this & welded two bars across the chassis.
I paid $50 for the tank and $120 for the sender. Quoted $200 for recalibration of fuel guage, but they couldnt guarantee that it would be 100%.. Option is Aftermarket guage.

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Reply By: Savvas - Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00
A dumb question....

Isn't the Surf the same as a ForeRunner?

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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00
No Savvas. The Surf is the imported version of the ForeRunner. Similar, but different.
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Reply By: Surf - Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00
As someone once said, Forerunners are poverty Surfs. I actually thought after posting my original question that I should have said Forerunner/Surf, as that may mean more to some individuals.
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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00
Surf, I know this hasn't anything to do with your question, but how did you go getting insurance for your Surf? I bought one last Nov. and had the devils own luck getting an insurer. Finally found one, though.
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Follow Up By: Greg - Qld - Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
HI Gypsy Helen,
I've a 93 Surf and insurance wasn't a problem. Possibly it depends on the type of insurance you want (meaning how much off-road cover you want) and how much you're prepaired to pay.

I just went straight to Aust. 4WD Insurance who're now underwritten/owned by CGU. Includes cover ANYWHERE irrespective of being a road, river or within 1km of Australian Coastline - Just incase I decide to drive to Tassie and get stuck on the creek crossing...LOL :-)

Cheers
Greg

PS around $800pa including all accessories (not gear being carried)
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Follow Up By: Surf - Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
Gypsy Helen, I insured initially through RACWA for a total of $24,000, but after 12 months went through TCIS in Adelaide as they allowed off road driving. RACWA were a little grey in the wording of their policy regarding "endurance trials", so I switched to be on the safe side. You have to be a member of a 4x4 club, and they require a valuation by an assessor first up. From memory I paid approx $640 for $23,000, plus for a little extra, I was able to insure our camping gear.
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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Thanx guys. I did get mine insured with Torque - in Adelaide(underwritten by Lumleys) at about $800, but the mainstream insurers wouldn't handle it.
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Reply By: ray91 - Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:00
Hi I have fitted 3 surf/forruners with the patrol tank.first the tanks are free if you go to a gas lpg fitting place,patrols have the tank removed to fit the gas tank and the gas fitters usually throw the tanks in the bin.The tank is easy to fit using two lengths of 30mm square bar across the chassis / tow bar.You need to make a round plate to cover the hole in the top of the tank also remove the filler pipe on the car and cut a hole in the side and weld another pipe to it so the filler now has two pipes and one cap.Join the filler pipe to the tank with rubber hose.I used an electric pump to pump fuel from the big patrol tank into the fillertube for the front tank and no gauge on the patrol tank, Why you should know how much fuel is in there.Cost about $200 including the new pump hoses, steel bar and bolts.If you live in Perth I can show you one on a surf Ray
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Follow Up By: Surf - Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
Sounds good Ray, I am also in Perth, how do we make contact?
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Reply By: ray91 - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Surf give me a ring after 8.30 tonight friday 1 Nov or tomorrow on 0419813091.I have just been to the gas /lpg fitters and i have a patrol 95 litre tank for you free.
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Follow Up By: Surf - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Thanks a lot Ray, I'll ring you tonight. Much appreciated
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