Diesel in NZ

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:19
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89.9c P/litre West coast and 86c p/litre on the East Coast

Do I need to ask the obvious question ?
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:22

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:22
OK I'll do it for you

Yeah, why is it so dear in the land of Oz?

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:24

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:24
All I can think of is Govt taxes...but the NZ Govt has never been slow to tax anything
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:26

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:26
Maybe they need to introduce an Oz parity tax? This works for the Howard government!
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:31

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:31
Well if you do the sums, its almost more expensive to 4wd around Oz than put your car on a boat and go to NZ !! Not that I'd want to, but its crazy.
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Reply By: flappa - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:33

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:33
Is that the end of the costs though ?

AFAIK , In NZ , for diesels , you need to purchase K'm's. When you run out , you buy more.

Its more then just the fuel price.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:38

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:38
So one has to pax a tax on the number of km one travels as well as the fuel ? How bizzare !
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Follow Up By: flappa - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:44

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:44
I believe so.

Happy to be corrected , but I'm pretty sure its been discussed a few times.

So essentially in NZ , you pay twice (with Diesel), Fuel and Km's , and Rego. Run out of K's . . . buy more . . . run out of fuel . . . buy more.

At least here , pay your rego , and its done . . . just add fuel.

it MAY be , that overall , NZ is still cheaper . . . I dont know ?

I'll try and dig up some info
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:13

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:13
Thats right flappa at the pump its cheaper than in Aussie but in Aussie it has the tax aleady on it. in NZ you have to apply and buy a number of Ks if you are a farmer or excemt the tax then you dont have to buy the ks in Aussie if you are able to claim the tax back then thats what you have to do i suppose the systime in NZ means that you dont have to give the gov a loan untill you claim the tax back.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce B (NSW) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 14:10

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 14:10
I think the price of diesel went up in Oz after the truck blockade on razorback due to road tax. The government eased road tax on trucks and included it in all diesel sales, where trucks and farmers could later claim the cost on their tax
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Reply By: flappa - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:58

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 15:58
Here is a link to the NZ Diesel Road Taxes

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/factsheets/38.html

Quote:

Users of diesel-powered vehicles contribute towards the cost of the upkeep of New Zealand's roads by paying road user charges (RUC). (Other road users pay levies in the price of their fuel.)

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Who must pay road user charges?
The law says that owners of diesel-powered vehicles and vehicles powered by a fuel that isn't taxed at source, regardless of the weight of the vehicle, must pay road user charges. Vehicles with a manufacturer's gross laden weight of more than 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kg) also incur road user charges.

How do I pay for a RUC licence?
To pay the charges, the vehicle owner/applicant purchases a road user charges licence (RUC licence), based on the vehicle type, vehicle weight and distance to be travelled.

END

So , you can see , Fuel price is only one part of it.

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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:19

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:19
Thanks. My NZ contact tells me that even with the road tax on top of diesel that it isn't as expensive as here. One can only assume that he has no idea of how big a distance we can clock up in a day here.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:22

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 16:22
Yeah, I mentioned earlier its quite possibly "potentially" cheaper anyway.

I guess the point was , its not just about fuel price.

I seem to recall the person that told me , usually bought 10 or 15, 000 for the year.

Not very far when you consider our distances.

We rack up about 70,000 a year between my 2 , and thats not including any trips . . . thats mostly daily running around.
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Reply By: Member - Woodsy - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 17:20

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 17:20
Hi All,

I am recently back from NZ and Diesel was NZ$0.40/litre cheaper than petrol which was generally NZ$1.30/litre.

(I have a 4.8 Auto petrol Patrol here in Oz but had a small 4 cyl hire car in NZ so fuel cost didn't worry me too much)

Just an observation.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 17:43

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 17:43
last time i was in the land of the long white cloud...about 17 yrs ago? petrol was $1.00 per litre...a 30 % increase in 17 yrs seems okay....not like here...130%
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:15

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:15
If the hire vechile was diesel then the tax was in the hire rate.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 19:18

Thursday, Apr 28, 2005 at 19:18
Whats the exchange rate????
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