Lightforce spotties

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A mate and I were chatting the other night about how dissapointing our spotlights are. I said we should get a set of Lightforce 240 between us. We don't do heaps of night driving, but when we do we both complain about what we currently have.

The question is, are the XGT's worth it. Should we just get the normal 240 blitz.

I recon we only need one each if we get the XGT's. We both have upgraded wiring ang globes to the cars headlights. He runs an 80 series druiser and me a GU patrol.

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Reply By: peter in sa - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:13

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:13
Hi Muzz I have the 240 on the paj and i must say there great but i sopose getting the XGT's would be better either way you would'nt be dissapointed. I think the difference is between the models is that the XGT's are a whiter light i'm not to sure on that but i'm sure some one else could correct me on that. cheer's GREENDOG
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Reply By: Exploder - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:28

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:28
Gday Muzzgit.

The light force 240’s EGT range is like 800 meters and cost about $260 each if you like your light they r worth it.

I have cibie’s as well and find they do a good job for the reflector size just over 400 meters of usable light.

How much light do you need?

Have u thought about buying one 240 XGT each and just attaching it to the top of the Bull Bar's before trip’s using it as a long distance spotlight and using the old spot’s as spread beams.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:29

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:29
Got 240 Blitz and love em Muzz, same globes in the XGTs, same reflectors too I guess, but have been wrong before.
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Reply By: Member - Anni M (SA) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:37

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:37
G'day Muzz

I went to buy some XGT's for HWMBO for Christmas, because the lights we had were awful. The supplier (nameless but well know 4x4 equipment supplier) said that there really wasn't much difference in the effectiveness between them and the Blitz. I bought the Blitz because they were cheaper and also because they sit better on the bull bar. They are fantastic!! We haven't done a lot of night driving with them, but when we have we thought they were really amazing. Can't wait to give them a run in the bush.

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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:39

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 22:39
Can you adjust the XGT's focal length at all like you can the 240's by swivelling the reflectors in and out like a MagLite torch? I was under the impression that there was absolutely no adjustment. I've got the 240's and have one wound in all the way (pencil) and the other I've wound out a bit to spread the beam a little. I don't use the lens cover deflectors at all - just the standard protective ones.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 00:31

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 00:31
Correct the XGT's are sealed and require spot / combo covers to adjust the beam spread.
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Reply By: nick riviera - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:00

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:00
I have the 240 Blitz's on a Toyota 100 series -toyota steel bar so they sit out a little.

We have hit two big roos, and at least 4 birds so far and have only had to readjust them back down after the hits. Also bumped a shoping trolley and survived.

Had them for the last two years and would never go back to steel cased lights. Fantastic on the dirt at night.

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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:31

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:31
Hay nick

Apparently the light forces will withstand a round from a shotgun. Don’t know what shot size thou, impressive never the less.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:12

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:12
The XGT and 240 put out basically the same light...

"one each".. dont know how you come to that... but are you sure, your not thinking of the $1000ea ones? then yes, 1 each.
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Follow Up By: muzzgit (WA) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:37

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 23:37
Here's what I'm thinkin.

If these lights put out so much light, I should only need one. The lights on the patrol are pretty good, but my cibie oscars don't do much out on the open road, and my mates 80 has good lights too, but his spotties are no better than mine.

It's just late at night on country roads we would like more distance. The new light dispersing lenses you can buy for the lightforce are pretty good, and one each, half the cost and better airflow into the radiator sounds alright to me !

I'm not talking the really expensive ones, $1000 each, stuff that. I've got a new mortgage and am saving for a pool table for the new games room, as well as a new wide screen TV, so I don't have money to burn.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 00:30

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 00:30
Muddy I have a pair of the 240 XGT's got them from Member Eric on here, MM him about a deal he will get them for a better price than anyone else can supply them for.
I just fitted the crystal blue spot / combo covers (Had the standard clear ones) Made a big difference, Brilliant in fact.

Just buy the pair you wont regret it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 08:04

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 08:04
muzzgit - make sure that your local cops aren't going to take offence at you having just the one driving light. If I'm not mistaken - it's law to have an even number of lights fitted.... and below or above your line of sight. I saw one bloke in the recent 4WD Monthly that they did an expose on, and he had a single, centrally-mounted LightForce ON TOP OF HIS BULL BAR. This is a very big No-No.......
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 08:31

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 08:31
G'day,
It's actually Roachie here typing this......I'm at Pesty's place at present and thought I'd set you straight on a point that nobody else has actually mentioned, although they've skirted around it........

There are actually 3 different BIG Lightforce lights. These are......the HID; the XGT and the 240 BLITZ. The HID is the really expensive one that is really bright, but has low current draw. It has the ballast pack in the back of it large backend.
The 240 Blitz was the original large light and is the one which is similar to the 170 and 140, in that you can turn the whole body (a bit like a Mag-lite) and adjust the spread of the beam.
The XGT has the same globe as the 240 Blitz, but is in a body shell which looks like the HID. You need to look at the back of the casing to see whether it says HID or XGT to be able to tell which one it is.
If you're thinking about spending $2,200- on a pair of HID's and taking one each, I don't see that would be a problem, as long as your state laws don't forbid you from having an odd number of spotties (I think there is at least one state which does....Victoria maybe???). If that is a problem maybe you need to buy a pair of HIDs and a pair of XGT and split them between you.....they look the same externally, but you'd put them on your bullbar with the HID on the driver's side and you'd have the best of both worlds....
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Reply By: nick riviera - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 09:28

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 09:28
after using the 240 blitz's and reading about the HID's, I really don't think anyone would actullay Need the HID's unless they had too much money or where Baja racers or something extreme like that.

When we changed up to the 240 Blitz I kept blinding us with the reflection off big road signs.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 18:50

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 18:50
they do that Nick don't they, but they are a brilliant light to see with. I did have mine combined in the distance but have them side by side down the road.
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Reply By: bernie1 - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 10:08

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 10:08
What sort of money are we taking for the 240 blitz's.
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Follow Up By: nick riviera - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 11:14

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 11:14
under 500 for two, i think i paid $440 2003.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 18:54

Sunday, May 01, 2005 at 18:54
bernie, there is good advice above to talk to a member for quite a bit better than what Nick is talking, or the commonly seen $380 at 4by shows. I have seen the XGTs at about $440 for a more firm fitment as the Blitz can be seen to vibrate a bit. From all I have heard they will still be there after a long trip on corriegations unlike metal framed lights.
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Follow Up By: rpod1 - Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 22:57

Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 22:57
What are the contact details for Eric to buy the lights please.Member John from Vic.mentioned his name but no details ?Thanks
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 23:03

Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 23:03
I paid $330 for mine few yrs back :D But I did buy 18 prs of em...
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 00:41

Friday, May 06, 2005 at 00:41
rpod 1 if you go to the members rig details by clicking on the members tab above you will find Eric's phone and email details on his rig details.
Give him a yell, tell him where you got his details he is a bloody good bloke and will do you a good deal and back it up.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 00:46

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rpod 1 Sorry wrong detail's.
Go to business search instead of member detail and enter Eric Christopher He will come up as a Car wholesaler his details are listed.

Sorry again they used to be under his member detail, not anymore, I should have checked first.

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Reply By: shaggy - Monday, May 02, 2005 at 13:04

Monday, May 02, 2005 at 13:04
The XGT's are well worth it. Dont believe when people say to you they are the same ligh output as normal halogen spotties. They have a much closer to daylight colour rendering. It makes halogen bulbs look yellow. You will be able to see more then a kilometer away with a pencil beam xgt.
The lamps have a very high luminance (light density. Light comes from an area much smaller then a halogen filament)(more than twice that of a 100 W halogen bulb). And 30 % more ligh output. The added bonus is that they only draw 35 W and are very cool when running (like fluoros) This means that your spotties will not melt when covered with mud, nor will they crack lenses. Nor will they ingress water when doing a crossing due to rapid cooling of spotty. There is no filament in XGT and it is shock proof and lasts approx 2500 hours (about 50 times honger then a 100 W halogen)
Go out there and compare the light output of gas discharge compared to halogen. You will be impressed.

The only thing is, I would go the Hella predators which have more sophisticated circuitry.

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Reply By: Member - Gary W (VIC) - Monday, May 02, 2005 at 13:39

Monday, May 02, 2005 at 13:39
I've got the 240 Blitz - they are VG lights I have one with a normal cover and one with a spread beam cover. I wouldn't just get 1. 2 allows you to properly cover the roadsides.

I'm not 100% sure but the XGT's are the same as the Blitzs except for the "MAG light" style adjustment. They also have a HID version that are way more expensive.

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Reply By: Member - T-Bone (ACT) - Monday, May 02, 2005 at 14:11

Monday, May 02, 2005 at 14:11
Hiya Muzz.

Put me down for another vote on the 240 Blitz. Fantastic light output, durable, shock-resistant - can't really ask for more. From what I've seen of other lights rattling themselves to death, the Lightforce have the best mounting system around. I did 22,000km round Oz in 2003 and didn't even have to adjust them. I wish the rest of the Rangie was as reliable!

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