Bush Mechanics

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
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Not the show with the abos in it, but what are some of your top secrets or ones you have heard of for repairs in the bush..

EG in one thread there was the suggestion for tennis balls inside the springs for sagging springs...

Mine was in the Sydney Patrol club..
Bloke with a G60.

Snapped the bolts or smething that held his rear diff in place.. It moved, his tailshaft fell out.

He used his winch cable to pull the diff back into place, slid the tail shaft back in to the diff, and used chain, wire, and the winch cable to hold it there while he got to the ferry up the cape way somewhere! He even had to cross some creek on the way to the ferry and helped tow someone else while at it!

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Reply By: ken d - Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
Hi Truckster- Mine are the usual, hose clamps and fencing wire and bits of wood jobs. Recently fixed the oil cooler line on my Defender with a piece of garden hose to get home ( what a f***ing mess). Came down the GRR with a truck towing a trailer with only 3 wheels and a chain holding up the axle - I have however have seen or heard of some real beauties.- A fellow with a water leak in his cooling system had a 44 gal drum on the roof . No bonnet or windscreen. A hose along the windscreen pillar into rad where the cap would go, and a tap he could reach when driving. When it got a bit hot he could turn the tap on and fill her up. - There is a legendary case up at Drysdale station where some guys chained a log in where the rear diff used to be and came in with no back wheels. The log was worn flat on one side is now a seat outside the fuel shed. - I also heard the guys who took tractors down the CSR bent a front axle. Combined their barby plates to make a fire place, used someting like a heater fan out of a car to blow up the heat and straightened the front axle. - I've also heard early Landrover doors could be lifted of their hinges to put under the wheels if you got bogged. My old Landy is not the staightest but I've still never been that desperate.- -Anybody got any more??-Cheers
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Reply By: royce - Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
Battery shook loose on the Tanimi track. The metal bracket arced starting a fire. By the time I had the bonnet open and could see the battery in fire, my wife had the fire extinquisher out and was struggling with the plastic safety pin. Meanwhile daughter was running down the track in the direction of Yuendemu [100k] screaming and my son was taking photos! By this time I realized that wife was not going to succeed with freeing the pin so I filled my mouth with spit, pursed my lips and sprayed the fire. This worked. We set up a shelter in the hot sun. Had a cuppa and after contemplating the situation, I stuck a rubber glove over the hole using silacone. The hole was big enough to stick my hand through. [not that you would]. That battery worked for a couple more years! Keep it going! Cheer Royce
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Yeah, you can always count on the kids for help when you need them...LOL.
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Reply By: Derek - Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:00
Somewhere I saw a photo of a Discovery that had shagged a rear diff or something in the back of beyond. The driver unloaded his trailer, removed the rear wheels and tailshaft of the car and sat the back of the Disco in it, tied it in and drove to civilisation on the front wheels. Can't vouch for the autenticity of the story but the photo looked good. And here's a tip you may not know that really works. If you hole a fuel tank, mix some dirt with soap shavings and knead them into a dough and force it into and over the hole. It even works for large holes. Also, if you ever have the misfortune to use a radiator sealer, make sure you flush the whole cooling system out once the leak is properly repaired. This stuff is designed to seal holes -all holes, even internal ones that are meant to be there.
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Follow Up By: Member-skippyking - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Before I knew about soap shavings, I used chewing gum to plug a fuel tank hole 'til we got to civilisation and whacked a rubber washer and screw into it. Must have sold it like that too. I don't ever remember fixing it :~)
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
There's a family story about a Great Uncle who did the diff in his old truck, affectionately called the "Yellow Peril" (which apparently was actually 3 or 4 pieces from different makes). Anyway, he grabbed his axe, selected a nice straight sapling and made himself an axle which he then fitted the wheels to, fitted it to the truck using original brackets, fencing wire etc and drove around his farm like that for donkeys years.

:-) Melissa
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Reply By: Janset - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Hi guys.
I had a boat some years ago and was given a tip by a fellow boatie. He put me onto a 2 pack with the generic name of 'plumber joining compound", the brand name was Char-Mac, which I have been told is now no longer available but there are some substitutee on the market and can be purcahsed from plumbing suppliers.

The one that I have now is called "Jenco" joining putty.... This is really good stuff I give you the tip. It sets under water, cleans up with water, can be moulded with a wet hand. Sets rock hard, can be drilled and tapped, sticks to, well, I still haven't found anything that it does not stick to.

This boatie used it to patch up a large (knife vandelised) hole in his plastic water tank. (his tranks were those 20 litre detergent drums, whatever they are made of)

I have used this to patch water leaks in my stainless steal under belly water tank, to repair the cracked plastic, repair leaking hose fittings, (even under pressure) lid on my pattery box in the caravan. I would say that the applications are only limited by ones imagination.....I only hope this bit of info is of use to someone.
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Follow Up By: Janset - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Oh I forgot to mention.

We were out on a 4WD club event and a fellow member, on his Pajaro, the thermostat house sprung a leak. We removed it, scraped the inside clean makeing the hole to about the size of large match head plus a couple of others that weren't there before.

We mixed up the compounds and smeared it over the whole inside of the housing letting it ooze out the holes, Replaced it and let it cure over night.

That was 2 years ago and he is still running with the temporary repair job. (Doesn't say much for his maintenance program though does it).

Another one. After a bush trip I found I was loosing diesel fuel from the glass visi bowl on a second after market fuel filter (CAV type).

I found that the damage was due to stone damage on the upper edge of the glass where the rubber 'O' ring fits.

I removed it, cleaned it and filled the missing piece with the compund. When dry I shaved it so the seal would fit.

I ran like that with it for about 6 months before I replaced the visi glass. (What does that say about my maintenance?.........My excuse is that I forgot, and I am sticking by that :)

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Reply By: Truckster - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
one reason behind this Thread is to get people talkin, but also to give ideas to people who may someday have a situation, and think...

Gee. I remember someone having that problem, and give them an idea to get out of hell!

Im still at a loss on the soap to fix a hole in a tank, it was explained at Driver training at both clubs im in, but cant see how soap would stop fuel.. I thought that it would disolve or eat the soap....

Shows ya what I know >:-p~
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Follow Up By: Gaz - Sunday, Dec 08, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 08, 2002 at 01:00
Hi all
Just to add a tip about fixing holes in things good old body filler works on sumps, alloy side covers on motor bikes , you name it sets quik and lasts for ever it even fixes cracks in fridge doors .
Cheap tough and reliable/ bleep you can even fill in dents haahha not that I would geez it's a hj47 tray that I luv
happy travels
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Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
This is the best thread I have read in ages. The thermostat housing above reminds of one I read somewhere. They suggested using vegemite or jam to as a sealer if your thermostat gasket gives way. Take the housing off, leave the old gasket on, but smear some vegemite/jam on to the surfaces. Reassemble it, let it harden a bit and way you go. Never tried it...but like Truckster said, the discussion reminded me of it.
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Reply By: royce - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Hmmm just remembered when I had the head-on collision with the other landcruiser on our road. It's a dirt track one car wide with trees up close. He peeled the whole RHS of the old HJ47 troopie open and SMASHED THE BACK AXLE OFF ITS HANGERS leaving the drive shaft hanging on the road. I pulled the drive shaft off and drove the few k's home in 4WD using the front wheels. Similar. The new troopie sheared off the stud pins coming out of Wonnangatta on the LHS. We couldn't fix it but I had just fitted Lockrite diff locks. She still drove home because the drive was transfered to the good wheel. More......
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Reply By: Rick - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
I had a Series 2 A Landie wagon for some years. It was an ex police unit. But the rust had got stuck into things a bit. Actually a big bit: when the rear chassis mounted spring hanger gave way in the sand hills at Robe, I just got D shackles & chain and fixed it as tight as I could. But it was still sloppy. So I twitched it - a Cobb & Co for those who understand these things - with 10 guage wire. Drove steady to a local who refabricated things ...all ok the next day, only cost $ 120 & a slab.

Another time, on the last big sandhill heading north in the Little Dip Park (Robe, S.A.) just before the rubbish dump entry/exit, I snapped a rear axle. Not an uncommon thing to do in a Landie. So I just whipped the offending unit out, let the front tyres down as much as I dared, and charged up...and after about two attempts, made it. Back at the beach house, I disconnected the prop, pumped the front tyres up a bit & drove home to Murray Bridge in front wheel drive. Towed the boat home as well, a matter of fact. Easy.

Good thread, Truckster.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 01, 2002 at 01:00
Truckster, Got 2 yarns here, one about my Grandfather is not really relevant these days, he was travelling between Sydney and Newwcastle at night and the acetylene lamps on his vehicle ran out of water. We're talking about 1920's here, or even earlier. There was no water about, so they piddled in the lamps, and got going again. "Best bloody lights we'd ever had," he reckoned.
Back in '74 we were fighting some fires up on Barkly Tableland, and I was grading a firebreak along the boundary about 10pm. The lights got a bit dull, they were only 6 volts then, so checked the battery. All the cells were well down, and I didn't have any water, (must be a family trait), so piddled in a tin and topped up the cells that way. Don't know what it did to the battery, but at least the lights kept working. Have to think of a serious hint or two now...

Broke both arms on front engine mounts of a tojo FJ45, we'd been fencing and had 2 crowbars in the back. Shoved one in from each side, from the front and wired them into place, under the sump. Kept the fan off the shroud, until we got back to the station. Course you need 2 'bars at the time. catch you all later...
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Reply By: kezza - Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00
Yes really good stuff.

I really suggest you all read "Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenence" by John R Pursig.

Long book but 2 important points he makes.
1/ Always take the back roads if you want to get a feel for the land and its people. (duh)
2/ If anything goes wrong with your vehicle you have to change your mindset and believe that "This was the best thing that could have happened today" because basically with this approach you will relax (not panic and make things worse) and you WILL think of a very creative solution to your problem (you will be proud of yourself for years).

I had a thermostat housing spring a leak at 5.00am 4 hours from the nearest help, noticed the temp guage move ever so slightly stopped and found a tiny fountain of coolant originating from the housing. (I was in a huge hurry as I was the co-ordinator of a major event due to start at midday.I didnt have any spare time for this.)
I immediatly thought - "This is the best thing that could have happened today" and relaxed.
Within 2 minutes I knew what I had to do. To my wifes horror I took the housing off and made the hole bigger. I then ratted around behind the seats where 3 days ago (before we went camping) my wife spilt my tin of loose nuts and bolts (and didnt clean them up) I found a short 5/16 nut and bolt grabbed some thick plastic that a new item of camping gear came in, wiped a smear of grease off a grease nipple under the vehicle, made a gasket, smeared on the grease both sides of the hole, applied the plastic gasket, punched the bolt through it all and tightened up the nut, made another plastic and grease gasket for the housing put it all together peed in the radiator (till we found more water), and the bush repair didnt leak once. Until we hurriedly replaced the housing and gasket in the next town but the new gasket leaked all the way home. Made it to my function with 5 minutes to spare.

Moral of the story is - stop and relax there is always a solution.

Ive got a dozen more like that one,

Just quickly - came across a family had bent a steering arm or something and he was banging away with a hammer and he chipped some metal off hammer or part of his vehicle into his eye - was in a terrible way they couldnt move it. Again thinking "this is really good" I eventually pulled one of their speakers out of the door and used the magnet on the back to pull out a 1/16" sliver of metal out of his eye. I now keep a magnet in my tool kit.

keep the creative juices flowing

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Follow Up By: Peter - Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00
while all the brains are ticking can any body tell me how the "gas producer" worked on the back of cars in melbourne during ww2. bet i could save a few bucks if i could fire up the old girl and go for a spin on a load of malley roots regards peter
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00
If anything goes wrong with your vehicle you have to change your mindset and believe that "This was the best thing that could have happened today" because basically with this approach you will relax

Somehow this one doesnt compute.. the best thing that could happen today?? ;)
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Follow Up By: Kezza - Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00
Ah Truckster you sure can be a schmuck sometimes! Dont you know ANYTHING about problem solving? Zen? Philosophy??
Anyhow it works - you just missed my point - dont worry everybody else got it.
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Reply By: johnsy - Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:00
holes in fuel tanks .4 petrol small leaks use soap larger holes drive a pointed dry stickinto it and wait for wood to swell or tears burn a heap of spinefax and use the pitch to mend the hole last two options for diesel.

fuel pump dies on carby vehicles jerry can on roof

flat tyres no compressor or patches remove valve and fill with sand

just a couple for you cya johnsy
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Reply By: Janset - Sunday, Nov 03, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Nov 03, 2002 at 01:00
Here I go one more time.

This only applies to Supa Trupas. Sorry Nissan guys.

I was visiting a mechanic mate a short time ago and he related this account to me.

At the time he was working on a Troopie and was in the process of trying to get out the remains of 6 broken studs from the right rear hub.

I say six studs, I think, hell I have a troopie and can't remember <:(

The owner told him that he was driving along on a bush track wherever, when he looked in the rear vision mirror only to see that his right rear axle was sticking out about 18 inches.

I was informed that this can only happen if the nuts holding the axle in are loose, the axle starts to move around on the loose studs until they shear.

The owner over came the problem by removing both the rear axles and the prop shaft. He then jambed rag into the axle diff housing to stop dirty getting in and drove home in high 4WD on the front axles.

Moral of the story. Check that you nuts are tight, (on you rear axle that is).

I am told that Nissan's do not have a floating axle setup so if they break the axle or whatever, it's all over red rover.

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Follow Up By: Member - Nigel - Monday, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:00
Lucky Nissans don't break axles...

Doh - now I'm gonna break one for saying that :)
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