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Submitted: Friday, May 06, 2005 at 13:36
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Before you bag this as old news..... there is a new link at [ vks737.on.net ] re a discussion paper just published by the ACA on Broadband Power Line (BPL) - see the home view of the VKS737 site.
The saga continues, and the Feds seem committed to rollout of BPL - their claims for protection of HF users 'may' hold water- possibly not - could be a real pain OR something that can be "lived with". If you are interested, you can be informed !
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Reply By: BenSpoon - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 14:15

Friday, May 06, 2005 at 14:15
As I understand it there is dying interest in it- It is getting somewhat popular overseas, with large multinational tech and telco companies investing heavily in it and forming consortiums to develop public standards. Here it seems the cost of installation, a lack of standards and the need for regular signal amps have scared off many large players from adopting it. It seems the more popular solution is cable (eg pay TV) as it has pretty much been mastered in the US and consumer technologies are already at low prices due to volumes already sold.

Given the concern over interference caused in other systems, I'd say its a fair way off being something significant. I reckon theres a better chance of us continuing the way we have already gone: Let another country deal with the dramas and then look at a roll out here after we have a better idea of what side effects and service levels to expect.
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 15:39

Friday, May 06, 2005 at 15:39
Hope you are right - a lot of inconvenience and imposition of cost burdens could be caused to users by the main players, while they are crashing around with it.
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Reply By: joc45 - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 15:11

Friday, May 06, 2005 at 15:11
One thing is for certain; despite any assurances a government may give to HF users, any resulting HF interference will not result in the BPL companies shutting down their operations. The usual pollie weasel words will give reasons why the BPL should continue.
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 15:44

Friday, May 06, 2005 at 15:44
Yep - I would expect no help from the pollies or the Gov if I had problems at a personal level - as for corporate users of HF, they would probably just be referred to a complaint resolution website at the ACA !
I suggest our only hope is the effectiveness and costs of the plan being unworkable and/or uneconomic as compared to other methods of data transmission. Hell....its bad enough at times on channel due to solar activity - we don't want manmade interference.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 00:34

Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 00:34
Banjo it is "Old News" this was posted on here a week ago. Post No 22498.

Why is the VKS web site so slow in getting this info "Out There "

The more important point is that we respond to the questionnaire and ensure that we have input into the proposed issues.
If you sit on your hands now then you have no cause for complaint later.
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 08:27

Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 08:27
No comment.
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Reply By: MT - Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 22:56

Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 22:56
John,

The 'old news' is the post a week ago on this website. This issue has been run by VKS 737 since last year, the organisation has been a leader / prime mover in the campaign against BPL amongst the 4wd community.

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 23:07

Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 23:07
Oh MT the discussion paper on the subject is new, released by the ACA on the 29th April. Johns post was right up to date.
Read about it first on EO!
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 23:50

Saturday, May 07, 2005 at 23:50
MT no doubting you comments about the VKS network being prime movers in regards to BPL.

My comments are in relation to the fact that I was a bit surprised that the VKS web site took a week to get the info out there and it appears not to have emailed their members with the detail ????

The post I placed on here a week ago was what I received from the Australian Citizens Radio Emergency Monitors (A C R E M) network.
I am on their email list and they released the info virtually immediately it was released by the ACA.
If you access the ACREM site then you can have your details added to their mailing list also.

If you read the ACA document then you will notice prominent reference has been made about the VKS / 4wd network which shows to me that at least some reasonable representation appears to have been made in the preliminary stages of this by VKS and ACREM etc etc.

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Reply By: Member - Geoff M (NSW) - Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 13:08

Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 13:08
BPL is something the electricity suppliers in major population centres will be busting to roll out.
All they need is a way to work out how to get us, the consumer to pay for it.
Why are they busting? Simple, how much in labour, vehicles, equipment etc. does it cost them each quarter to read our electricity and gas meters?
Run BPL and a slightly modified meter, the whole job can be done in a couple of hours by the billing computer every quarter. Right down to the automated mail out.
Also with the advent of IPv6 they've got plenty of IP address to play with, only thing stopping them is how to get us to pay for it.

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