Will the explorer explode.
Submitted: Friday, May 06, 2005 at 19:43
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Gday all
Bloody ford dealer rip off merchants.
All right went down to ford after work today as the explorer has a dieseling sound coming from the front of the engine when I start it up, but it only does it occasionally. Now I know what it is.
The front timing chain, the explorer engines have 2 one at the front and one at the back.
So the ford man confirmed my suspicions and he is like yeah mate minimum $2500 for just the front one or $5000 min for both and they would need it for a week. ‘Yeah right get out of town, what are the chains gold plated or something”. So no way in hell I am giving it to ford to do.
This leaves 2 options
1. I am going to go talk to a family friend who is an auto mechanic and see what he will do it for if I get the parts.
2. Being a apprentice mechanical fitter I could do it my self
But I don’t have the time and really cannot be stuffed spending my weekend pulling half the motor apart if I can get it done at a reasonable price.
Do not mind paying for it if it’s a family friend and if I decide to give him a hand he will probably knock some $$ off the job and being in a workshop will make it quicker and easer.
It only happens 1 in 4 start’s but it has been getting worse over the last 5000k’s. Am going to
check it out again tomorrow I hope I was wrong and it turns out to be something a bit cheaper. But when a petrol makes a diesel sound it is never good.
Has any other explorer owner had this problem or sound coming from their engine?
I know there are some on this
forum
Or can anyone offer advice.
Thanks. Brendan
Reply By: TheUndertaker - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 21:16
Friday, May 06, 2005 at 21:16
A. how many ks you got up.
B. what year / mth explorer.
C. yours the manual or auto.
D. where the efen hell do you get the notion that you have a timing chain at the front and back from , v6 4lt,
E.
check your catalyic convertor when cold , rattles ???? stops when hot ,sounds like donk about to blow ,, noise at 2000rpm cold disapears when hot ,,
F. guess what ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
loose timing chain tension adjustment bolt .
G. 1.5hr by ford or 5hr by any body that is capable of changing a light bulb.
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Friday, May 06, 2005 at 21:48
Friday, May 06, 2005 at 21:48
Gday undertaker. Thanks for your response
A.how many ks you got up.= 11000k’s
B.what year / mth explorer.= end of 1997
C.yours the manual or auto.= 5 speed auto
D.where the efen hell do you get the notion that you have a timing chain at the front and back from , v6 4lt,……= You just do don’t ask me why (German engineering I guess) the front one is the only one that gets the problem thou between 100 000 and 160 000K’s not on all explores but, a bit like the gu gearbox. It is only the 1997 to mid 1999 that could have this problem.
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check your catalyic convertor when cold , rattles ???? stops when hot ,sounds like donk about to blow ,, noise at 2000rpm cold disapears when hot =The cat and entire exhaust system is solid but will look at it again.
loose timing chain tension adjustment bolt .
G. 1.5hr by ford or 5hr by any body that is capable of changing a light bulb.
Yes I do know about the chain tension problem. Was hoping that this was the case but the ford man was quick to dismiss it when I brought it up. He said it would solve it for a bit but the chain is the problem. I think he is just trying to screw me the 5g’s for the chain but it ant going to happen.
I will have it in the mechanics workshop tomorrow morning that will be one of the first tings we look at. Did yours have this problem?
Did the ajustment fix it
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Reply By: Exploder - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 22:20
Monday, May 09, 2005 at 22:20
Thank you both for your replies.
I was sure it had a rear timing chain for resins already stated but thank you for confirming it. I did not want to be an arrogant prick and tell people they were wrong as everybody put forward some good points and I was not 100% sure ether
Yes Moz I could tell by looking at the engine it would be a basted of a job, that is why I was not to keen on doing it myself, the family friend I took it to said the same thing as ford. (But he was not familiar with the engine) so he did not give me a price but it would be $$ ( Not as much as ford thou.)
I agree the dealer is the best to see to diagnose the problem especially with the explorer as they are not as well know as say a patrol. From what I understand the tennsioners will fix it short term, but the chains are weak/faulty and the replacement is a lot tougher. I ant happy with the $5000 price still seams a bit steep.
Luckily chains are not know for giving up the go, so I should be right for a bit yet
Every time I get close to affording a dirt bike I have to fork out big on something else, It is starting to *iss me off.
Seya.
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