CDMA with Antenna

Submitted: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 09:50
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Has anyone tried connecting an external antenna to their CDMA phone? like with a car kit.

Im interested to know if there is much improvement in reception/coverage. My CDMA phone at the moment is no better than GSM so I was thinking of selling it, but if external antenna makes a big difference then I might keep it.

Thanks
NUTS!
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 10:15

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 10:15
G'day NUTS,

It makes a big difference. Not much of a phone person but always used my CDMA for a regular trip but reception was patchy to non existent (probably less than 50%). Got a new phone, car kit and arial. Now get reception for 90/95% of the journey - so worth my while. But this CDMA stuff is as dear as poison.

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: John - Qld - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 10:53

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 10:53
Yes I have heard aerials greatly improve reception. We are looking at one to travel with.

Beatit what phone and plan did you go for?

cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 11:01

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 11:01
G'day John,

Got a Kyocera phantom, car kit, data cable and 6Db arial. Have a $10 plan because normally don't make calls. A looming trip may see me rack up a substantial bills if we end up using it for such things as sending emails etc.

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Troopytrek - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 11:48

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 11:48
Hi Guys,

We too were a bit not to sure as to get the external antena due to the fact that how many aerial/antena's do we want on our vehicle.(most vehicles that we see with this many aerial/antenas are those utes with the Bundy mud flaps,spots all over them and was a bit concerned that our Troopy would look the same(not trying to put them down but not my cup of tea).

We have just purchased our external antena for our CDMA phone with car kit it is a Nokia 6225. We decided to purchase this because our radio tech. man from Qld rail advised us for greater coverage. As we are now up a running with our internet connection.

By the way Beatit I will inform you of our set up of the connection when I have fine tunned the connection with Telstra. It has taken me some time to get to the point so that I can access the net with alot of time on the phone to Nokia Support and Telstra themselves to configure the setup.

As I am not as quick as some with all this IT stuff.

Regards
Troopytrek
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 12:36

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 12:36
Yep it does make a big difference we had the incar kit put into our Disco and it greatly improved reception in places where the hand held phone has none.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 14:58

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 14:58
Yeah, about 90-95% for us as well. With our GSM as soon as we got to a 110km/hr zone it was gone. CDMA with a 6db Whip is excellent. We have a motoralla with a genuine car kit and a spring base 6b dipole from Dicksmith.
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Reply By: hl - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 11:08

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 11:08
You will find it very worthwhile to use a decent outside antenna. Avoid on-glass ones if you can. CDMA coverage is quite amazing. You can drive from Sydney to Broken Hill and have almost continous coverage!
We even got coverage in parts between White Cliffs, Mootawinji and Silver City Hwy!
Cheers
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Reply By: Toy_Hilux - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 12:52

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 12:52
Hi Nuts,

Just purchased 2 Kyocera Koi's and 2 incar kits with 7db arials and installed them into our 2 4bys. Before the external arials we didn't have great reception, now we are getting reception almost everywhere in the fringe areas. Wouldn't be without them now.
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Reply By: slave - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 12:55

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 12:55
Any recommendations on external antennas anyone???

We were quoted around $400 for the car kit for our Noika 6225.

CDMA is much better in our area on both land and water.

Mrs Slave
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:14

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:14
Thats about the going rate even more with some.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Troopytrek - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:25

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:25
Slave ,

We have just purchased a dual band antenna(CDMA & GSM) it is a 6.5dBi High Gain Antenna 824-960MHz Broadband it has a 12 month warranty cost us $123.00.
As for the car kit I cannot tell you as it was part of the phone pagage with telstra.

Regards
Troopytrek
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Follow Up By: Member - Troopytrek - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:29

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:29
P.S have found what the car kit cost in the package one of payment of $48.99 It was on my Telstra bill as Car Kit Charge-CDMA.
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Follow Up By: slave - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:43

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:43
Thanks Troopytrek

We ended up getting the the car charger throw in as part of the deal so now we just need the Antenna. Where did you get your antenna, I'm guessing QLD so maybe a brand may be more helpful

Mrs Slave
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Follow Up By: Member - Troopytrek - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:53

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:53
We purchased it from Comtel communications in Toowoomba.
I don't know if it was trade price or retail have to confirm with the other half. I Think the model number is a RFI CD1795. Im getting all this info off the label on the outside of the packaging.

Regards
Troopytrek
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 14:05

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 14:05
Nokia car kit is generally $350, add about $120 for a decent aerial.
Slave, you will still have to get the antenna coupling and car cradle if you havent already as your phone doesnt appear to have an external aerial connection on it. The coupling is generally packaged in with the car kit.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:04

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 13:04
I live in Broken Hill and CDMA is the only way to go once you leave town. Without the car kit and antennae if is still very limited, about 50km out of town is all I can count on. Slip the phone into the kit I have full coverage all the way to Sydney, Mildura, Tibooburra and beyond as well as Adelaide. I even had coverage all the way on a recent trip out to White Cliffs, Wanaaring, Tib and Milparinka. We came back to town via MT Brown goldfields and the back road down to Packsaddle without losing coverage.

I have a 6385 with an 8Db gain dual band antennae. The missus is on digital and we put a 6110 into the same car kit when necessary.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: ginga - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 16:53

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 16:53
Hi Duncs

How long is a 8Db antennae? Is it spring mounted?
Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 at 22:52

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 at 22:52
ginga,

the 8db stands about 1m above the bull bar mount is about 17mm diamatre and is spring mounted. It cost about $120.00 couple of years ago.

A work mate has the same phone and car kit but with a 12db antennae, not dual band though.

Duncs
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 14:06

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 14:06
Even driving along the Melbourne - Geelong road you are better ensured of linking in. We had an account linked through the King Island tower one day, because the CDMA high gain got through
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Reply By: Member - Dashmir E (VIC) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 16:43

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 16:43
Hi guys, I have CDMA phone with Orange and I get reception in the high country in victoria and in the barmah state forest on the murray with no antenna. The only problem is that when the people travelling with you cant get any reception on telstra and optus they want to use your phone.As far as cost goes Orange had great rates for orange to orange phones sms free all over australia.
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Reply By: rolande- Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 20:07

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 20:07
G'Day NUTS!

If you already have a CDMA phone, check out EBAY, guy in Qld can make a patch lead for most phones for $20 so no expensive car kits. Can attach any antenna you like to it. Got one for our old CDMA phone rather than buy a new one

If you want a phone and kit, stick with Kyocera, much better reception and battery life as they use the original chipset developed by the U.S. military.

Nokia CDMA have a problem with short battery life outside the holder.

Lots of info on this recently on another forum.

Hope this helps

Rolande

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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 21:45

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 21:45
Hi Rolande, I currently have a Nokia 6225 CDMA and used to have a Kyrocera. I had genuine car kits for both with 6dba anteneas in my GU and I couldn't pick the difference in reception between the two, both were excellent. The Kyrocerra had a plug-in external antenae while the Nokia has the proximity connection. While I was expecting the Kyrocera to have better range, I found the Nokia just as good.

As for battery life, both last for several days without recharging. In fact I have never had them flat before being back in the vehicle. But as far as phone features are concerned, the Nokia 6225 wins hands down every time by a big margin.

Just my experence anyway.

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 09:29

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 09:29
G'day Rolande,
Do you have a link to the Ebay bloke.

Also, anyone used a CDMA hand held between say Gold Coast/Winton/ Mt Isa/ Kununnara/ Broome ?

Just interested to know if the hand held will be all I need for this part of the world travelling the main highway.

Pedro
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Follow Up By: rolande- Sunday, May 22, 2005 at 11:34

Sunday, May 22, 2005 at 11:34
G'Day Pedro,

E-Mail address for patch leads is

phonedoc@bigpond.net.au

Hope this helps

Rolande
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Reply By: NissanNut - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 at 08:36

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 at 08:36
Thanks for all the help everyone, lots of good info in these posts! well done.

I've got the i-Mate PDA2k EVDO version. It has antenna connector on the back but cradles cost your first born and they still come chasing you for an arm. I might take your advice Rolande and just get a cable made up, then by the sounds of it, I can use the spare UHF 6.5db gain antenna I have sitting in the shed...Too easy!, only problem is ive already got two cables hanging out of this thing in the car........

I was a bit dissapointed with the coverage on this phone with CDMA, mainly in the snowy mountains, but i suppose you wont get much coverage with anything in the snowy's. But even on the drive down the coast (Canberra to Bega) coverage was not as good as GSM from Cooma over the brown mtn.

Ill try the antenna and see how we go, has got to be better than it is now, and as long as i get better coverage than a GSM phone then im happy, otherwise I might go back to the old nokia with car kit, or long piece of string and paper cups. ;)

Cheers
NUTS!
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