Triton vs Hilux

Submitted: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 11:25
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Howdy folks

Help me out please
What should I buy? A new Triton Diesel dual cab or the new Hilux diesel dual cab ?
I will be towing an off road van.

Gonna
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 11:29

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 11:29
what sort of van?
What weight?
how many people etc

I'd say a patrol.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 15:04

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 15:04
no matter what, you would say patrol!! hahaha
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Reply By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 12:03

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 12:03
If you decide Triton I would wait for the 3.2DID motor which is supposed to be dropped in shortly.

Leroy
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 12:25

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 12:25
Depends where your priorities are:
Power - Hilux is 120 Kw v Triton 93Kw
Torque - Hilux has 343 Nm v Triton 294 Nm
Towing capacity - Hilux is 2.25 T v Triton ?? don't know, but probably less.

Off roading ability is yet to be proven on both models, but on previous models I believe Hilux was much better (from reports, not personal experience).

But Triton is probably about $6,000 to $8,000 cheaper.

I have an 05 Hilux TD SR5. Goes great. I find it to be very quiet on road, although others have commented that it is noisy. I had the sound reduction spray applied and have fitted Cooper ATRs. Not sure if these factors are the difference or if I am just a bit deaf.

Only problem we have found for real off roading is the pretty average ramp over. We will fit steel side steps (to replace the alloy ones which are already bent) and look for a 40 to 50mm lift. Otherwise a great vehicle.

We will be towing an off road camper trailer which fully loaded, water tanks full etc will weigh up to 1500KG (approx 970 KG dry). Although we havn't done this yet, I reckon the Hilux will eat it. I targeted a set up which would have the normal maximum tow weight for long trips not exceeding 70% of vehicles tow capacity. A bit conservative, but with some long trips planned, I wanted to have plenty of margin for safety.

Hope this helps.

Norm C
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Follow Up By: conman - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 18:16

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 18:16
Hi Norm

sound reduction spray? did you do that yourself or is a factory option.
What is it? Bitumen?
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 22:40

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 22:40
conman, it was a dealer option. One of the ones where they usually rip you off with high prices. It was pretty much thrown in as one of the sweetners for us. It is a black spray (possibly just bitumen) sprayed in the wheel wells and above gear box. Don't know if it works, but we have found the vehicle to be surprisingly quiet for a diesel 4WD, particularly when others have commented on the noise.

At the time I thought it was a bit of nonesense, particularly with it only beeing applied in a few places, but perhaps it works.
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Reply By: signman - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 14:36

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 14:36
RODEO
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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 14:49

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 14:49
G'day,

if you are after a dual cab, I can tell you that the Triton has significantly less head room than the Hilux. I helped my mate out when he was replacing his old Navara DC ute. We tootled about the yards (I always go private, the yard blokes in Sydney give me the first class poos) and tried this and that. The Hilux was appealing...but $ and in the end the timing of new models, sales etc. the Rodeo DC ute was the clear pick of the bunch. Your reference to towing? My mate tows a 5m stacer.
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Reply By: gonna - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 18:14

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 18:14
Thanks for the replies so far
As for the Patrol bloke---nice try but I'm a ute man myself.
Thats why I now don't go bush with wagon owners, they can't get the wood , want me to carry the jerries and spare fuel and the stuff they can't fit in the back as well as pull them out of the black soil.

The rodeo's have a bad reputation as petrol guzzlers here in the Territory, don;t know about the diesels, no one I know owns one.

I currently drive a Triton petrol and once owned the 2.4 diesel Hilux, it was hopeless on road but great off.

I have been camping and fishing here in the NT for years. Ya can't beat the utes if you are a genuine mud and bush man who carries lots of camping gear and big eskies
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Reply By: Kalahari - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 19:13

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 19:13
G'day Gonna

I have been driving the new Hilux SR TD Auto dual cab for less than a week but towing a 600 kg trailer on the road was real easy on everything. A bit of a practice session on the long weekend just gone (Adelaide Cup) in the sand at the SA /VIC border and at Peake produced some very pleasing results. Power and torque were quite sufficient. With stock tyres I found it relatively quiet on the road and unless you feel inclined to take out the rear seat, (gets a bit noisy then) you certainly won't have to turn up the music maker too far.
Time will tell of any deficiencies of course but so far, very pleasing.

Kalahari
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Reply By: Johnty - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 20:12

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 20:12
Go the triton, I've only had my 03 td triton for 3 weeks and can fault it. Simple clean straight lines, unlike the boxy plastic looking hilux. I did consider purchasing a new lux but couldn't justify the close to $50000 cost with on roads. A new td triton will only set you back $40000 with on roads, the money you save you can fit it out with all the fruit that you need.

The GLX-R that is being advertised at the moment looks the goods. I would have bought a new one myself but found a second hand one with only 14000 on the clock, saving me even more money.

I don't know what towing would be like, but I agree with your comments regarding utes, you either love 'em and put up with the bumpy ride or you hate 'em. Their benifits far out weight any disadvantages.

Johnty
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Reply By: hound - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 13:14

Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 13:14
Power - goes to the hilux
fuel consumption - goes to the hilux
Ride - goes to the hilux
offroad - goes to the hilux
onroad - goes to the hilux

Have I missed anything?
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Follow Up By: Johnty - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:59

Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:59
More expensive - goes to the hulix

If cost isn't a factor yes I agree go the hilux, but the triton will give you a decade of trouble free driving and change in your pocket. There are many a triton of that vintage driving around to prove it.
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Follow Up By: hound - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 22:24

Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 22:24
You get what you pay for.
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Reply By: gonna - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 18:34

Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 18:34
It appears I made a mistake and replied online directly to senders. Sorry about that, my ignorance as a new user.
I have done some chasing up of the 3.2 DID
The word is to keep an eye on the European and North American Mits's market
It is known as a L200 over there and is usually released a year before here.
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