Radar Detector

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Can anyone recommend a good radar detector (and supplier) in WA that I could have fitted to my sedan.
Do they work and are they worth it ?
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 07:53

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 07:53
The best radar detection is to stay under the speed limit and when you see a radar, smile at them as you go by and say out loud to yourself
"I just cost the government $100".....

Works a treat for me!
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 08:08

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 08:08
Good driving a diesel too, most of the time you don't have the getup and go to do crazy speeds especially towing the camper! ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:40

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:40
Try a bell R65 Coops. Search on Google for local suppliers and prices vary widely. My son reckons they're the best and will pick up radar "scatter" from a long way off.
Just be aware of their favourite spots around the metro area.
Country doesn't matter so much as the police say they're "not cost effective" so that kills their and the pollies arguement that they're for the saving of lives!
Happy motoring.
A.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:46

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:46
Yeah yeah Brian, that might be ok for you Nissan drivers but what about the rest of us!? ;-)
LMAO!
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 07:54

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 07:54
Maaaate!

Don't you know.......they are illegal.

If you don't intentionally speed, you shouldn't need one, so NO, they are not worth it.

High & Mighty Sand Man!!!!

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Follow Up By: Member - Wesley S (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:38

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:38
Maaaate!

They are not illegal in WA.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:49

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:49
Maaaate, I don't "intentionally" speed either but doing 1000 k's a week it only takes 5 seconds of looking at the road and not your speedo to get done. Personally I'd rather be looking at the road and driving to the conditions than staring at my speedo all day long, at least with the radar it would beep at you to let you know and you can then glance and make sure your not 4k's over the limit!

And yeah, as Wesley said "NOT IN WA"! ;-)
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 11:36

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 11:36
OK! OK! Each to their Own.

Me, I get by with the Cruise Control.
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Reply By: Skinny- Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 09:13

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 09:13
Don't you know it's not speed that kills its 4x4's sic

Skinny
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 09:37

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 09:37
Have you checked out the fines for getting caught with one in your car??? Have been told(unsubstanciated and willing to stand corrected) that it's $250 here in Vic.
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Follow Up By: Coops (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:31

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:31
allowed to have 'em over here so thought I may as well
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Reply By: Rod W - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 10:07

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 10:07
Caught the last bit of Mythbusters on SBS the other night, they were testing all these gizzmos against hand held radars. No of em worked, the radar sill clocked em.

Save ya money and fuel.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:25

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:25
but they weren't using radar detectors. They were trying different methods to not be detected by radar.

Leroy
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 10:08

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 10:08
So the extactors reallry are working eh? and to youse others it must be good to be perfect drivers also as faras I aware only using a radar detector is illegal in wa fitting them is not
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:31

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:31
Perfect????? LOL.... No way!!

It works for me 9 times outta 10, but geeze,,, only 4 weeks back I got "done" for a hunjy..... 71 in a 60!

I just try reaaaaal hard to "cost" them a hundred instead of giving them a hundred... I still think I'm in front :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Wesley S (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:39

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:39
Legal to use and fit in WA
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:51

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:51
Oh boy brian, you must have had that thing wound up on a long straight or somthing!

But seriously, you try not to speed and you still get caught, what does that say about the system. It says it's crap and that it's only their to pay the pollies super fund.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 01:10

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 01:10
hey I agree and just so youse´eastern staes wowsers dont think all us WA residents are cowboys I havnt been done for over 8 years and never in WA
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 06:37

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 06:37
Jeff,
I was actually in the Misty Express work van..... I think the cop was a shocked as I was!!!! LOL..LOL
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 10:11

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 10:11
Coops,
why not just come out and ask where can I get an unregistered pistol as well...It is just as astounding that someone would even consider asking a question regarding the possession and use of an electronic device in their car to avoid detection by the Police that is outlawed in most if not all states in Australia. Did you expect any of us to actually answer it....can I have the directions to your planet!
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 11:39

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 11:39
If a radar detector saves someone from getting a ticket from a machine hidden in bushes halfway down a hill where you may inadvertantly exceed the limit, good on them.
Get the cops on the road actually enforcing all road rules, not relying on hidden machines supposedly "helping to save lives"!
My son has a good one (it replaced one stolen from his Rangie by a "local") and I'll find out what it is and let you know Coops.
A.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:46

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:46
'Coops,
why not just come out and ask where can I get an unregistered pistol as well...'

Wizzy,

That would be illegal!!

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:52

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:52
Rules don't seem to bother the crooks so why don't the cops and pollies crack down on them instead of harassing normally law abiding people like 4 wheel drivers (most anyway) and licenced shooters?
A.
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Follow Up By: Coops (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:18

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:18
Wizard1
1) one doesn't need to ask or go far to get an unregistered pistol round these parts
2) I don't live in most states of Australia - only WA. That's a third of the country where it's legal to have a detector
3) I did expect many people to answer as not all are quite so sanctimonious - and
4) Directions to my planet would be through Uranus
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Follow Up By: craig - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:45

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:45
Point No. 4 RAOTFLMAO
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:54

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:54
Wizzard1, get a grip on reality mate. I don't think anything else has to be said here, good on you Alan and Coops.

You would have to be a few stubbies short of a 6 pack if you actually really thought that speed cameras were put on the side of the road to save lives...
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 10:44

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 10:44
if you dont get caught it wont be illegal ..will it?
i knew one or more of oz states were allowed them...they have passed a law here in SA which says they are illegal..whatever that means

its illegal to speed but we all do it...well most of us do and at most times unintentionally.....wonder if they'll make Speed Alert's and cruise control illegal...
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 10:51

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 10:51
if they were really serious about about speed control V Accidents reduction they would pass legislation requiring all new cars to have GPS speed controlled limitations...

110 in areas of certain parts of SA
100 in 100 zones
60 in 60 zones
50 in 50
etc etc

the technology is there...why dont they make us buy it (when we buy a new car) to save, lives saving them the cost of buying non - revenue raising cameras and manning them ?
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Reply By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 11:37

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 11:37
Guys - these things work......just not very well. By the time they 'see' the radar signal the coppers gun has your speed recorded. Why not just paint your car with Radar absorbing paint.......should only cost your about $10,000 per litre....or better still get a non turbo diesel and you will have a smile a mile wide if you get caught speeding - especially on the highways towing your camper!!!!
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:14

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:14
The paint is closer to $1000 a litre... Had some left over from painting an army unimog and I painted an offroad rally car with it- The bad bit though is you really cant touch your numberplate... and that is where it reflects (or where the coppers are trained to point the guns at anyway).
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Follow Up By: Dog (NT) - Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 17:27

Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 17:27
Army 'mogs aren't painted with radar absorbant paint, just PUP.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 20:05

Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 20:05
Yeah thought so - I don't think we have anything in our inventory painted with radar absorbing paint. In fact the only thing I know of that is painted with this stuff is the SR71 aircraft. But the yanks may well have used it on something else that hasn't been made public knowledge yet.
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Reply By: Zapper - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 12:33

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 12:33
Coops

Ignore most of the above. They are legal in WA and they do work - and well. Laser detection is a problem cause it reads your speed so quickly and has such a narrow spread, if they lock onto you with it you are gone but if your detector picks it up as they are checking someone else you are ok.

As far as car bound radar and multanova go, a good detector will beat them every time. Normal radar throws a huge wide beam out that you can pick up miles away, even if you top a hill and are hit front on with no prior warning you can step on the brakes and beat it.

Best are latest model Bels or a Valentine One. Can get the Bels at strathfield and places like that, dont know where you can get a V1 outside the states, you can order them over the net from their web site but they wont post outside US. I have a V1 and its the best detector I have owned of a total of 5 different units and makes.

Just dont cross the border into South Australia with it still on your dash.......
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Follow Up By: Member - Bernard - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:18

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 13:18
And don't cross into NSW where the Police are equipped with radar detector dectectors - and the fine is over $1,000 with immediate confiscation of the equipment. I got copped when I had the latest and greatest (and most expensive) from the USA with all the bells and whistles -- supposedly undetectable ... what a load of bull. Took ages to get over the financial withdrawal symptoms.
Don't waste the money -- drive close to the speed limit -- you'll get there just as quick.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 14:14

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 14:14
what I think alot of the knockers from interstate dont realise is that over here we have many areas where it is 100s of ks to the nearest town and very little traffic combine that with pretty good roads and very long straight stretches( Wa home of australias longest straight stretch) and combined with that roadtrains with 4 trailors (try passing that at 110kph) and yet 30 years after their introduction we are still saddeled with the same speed limits that we were in our new HQ 202 with no power and crap suspension and tyres
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Follow Up By: Coops (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:46

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:46
at last a sensible response although I do appreciate everyone's sentiments.

Zapper - thanks for the info and advice, that's what I was after.

I live in Kalgoorlie but have to travel to Perth regularly as my pregnant wife is there under specialist supervision. I have to make the trek fairly often and as Davoe quite rightly points out, when you get stuck behind 3 or 4 road trains then the only safe way past is to put the slipper into it. I talk to them on UHF beforehand and all trucks are aware of what I'm up to (they also generally know if there's a speed trap around but not always). I will also be driving a 2005 BA MkII XR6T which is about as safe as I could feel on the open road. I've lived in country WA all my life and know what is an acceptable speed. I don't want to sit on 200 km/h all the way to Perth but do want to pass those trucks and may just have to get there in an emergency also.
The UHF may suffice but I thought I would investigate all options.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:56

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:56
Spot on Zapper, I customer at work bought a V1 from the states and swears by it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:01

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:01
Bernard, close to the speed limit is not good enough. My step father has crossed the nullabour 6 times in the last two years, he just got done a couple of hundred k's east of esperance (there is NOTHING OUT THERE) and got booked for doing 118km/hr in a 110km/hr zone in a new Berlina. It's TOTAL CRAP.

Davoe, f'ing excellent comments there, good on you!
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Reply By: scott111 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 14:26

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 14:26
Yes they are legal in WA.I had a uniden for about 3 years and it had vg2 anti detection, in the country it would give you a couple of kms notice if they where out patrolling and as long as they radars where bouncing off other cars.It was mounted in the truck and we drive through WA SA VIC NSW and saw heaps of police every week and never got picked up for it,on the other hand i had a old one with no vg2 and sold it to another driver from QLD he had it in the truck for 2 weeks when he got picked up by NSW police they confiscated the detector and fined him $850 when they pulled him up the officer told him they detected the detector so dont make them search the truck to find it or the fine would be 1500.YES he was not happy and gave me an abusive ph call.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bernard - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 14:33

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 14:33
scott111

OUCH -- sorry for your mate. Been there, done that.

To Davoe -- wasn't knocking you ... or anyone else ... understand the situations you describe. But the pollies, through fuzz, have got it sewn up. So, I guess, the real point I was trying to ask was, "Is it worth it?" Or do we just grin and bear it?

Regards,

Bernard
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:04

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:04
Bernard - No I won't grin and bear it, and no I won't let them take my license away when there are drongo's out there much more dangerous that tootle around town clocking up 50kms a week with NFI what they are doing who don't get touched by these cameras because they don't do enough k's to even pass one. No I won't loose my job and have my family live off welfare why these bastards rake in the money. They can go and get fukt.
Any way to ram it up them is good in my books...
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Reply By: Member - Wesley S (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:42

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 16:42
So after all that the answer to the original question is to call Neltronics (08) 9383-7833 and ask them to refer you to a delaer near you.
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Follow Up By: Coops (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:48

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:48
thanks Wesley
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:09

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:09
Yes they are legal in wa and as long as you get the x band disabled it will work well, with x band enabled as per us settings it will pick up on automatic doors, atm machines etc.

BUT not one of them are 'undetectable' , other states police forces can pick up on any of the units available, so dont cross the border with one switched on, or they will nab you.

they are good for hand held radar, and vehicle mounted mobile radar, as it takes them a bit to get a good lock on you ( i used to play with the units in the interceptors and pursuit cars heaps) but as for laser, unless you get a fragmented bounce off another car, they will nab you very quickly

Cheers mate Brad
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Reply By: Rick Blaine - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:14

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:14
Years ago I lived in an area known for its high petty crime rate. I was waxing my car one day and had the wax in a metal container that the paper label had come off. My cricket ground Yobo Neighbour saw me doing this and asked me what I was putting on my car. Now being an agent provocateur & knowing that this guy had numerous speeding fines to his credit I told him that it was "Radar Reflecting Coating" and that it worked by bouncing the signal back at the radar and so not registering any speed....
He seemed very interested but had no money to buy any but SWMBO sounded the tea bell so I left the can of wax there & went inside to watch... sure enough Yobo slinks over and takes some of the wax..... A week or so later the cops arrive and escort him away never to be seen again....His Girlfriend told me that the "F*** Cops had charged him for doing 190 kph in a 60 zone & he thought it would be ok cause he "knocked off some of that stuff youse were putting on yer car" The moral here is a) dont be a yobo b) if you are, don't ever become my neighbour! I'm not really a bible bashing wowser but this guy really got up my nose with some of his petty crime. He had 2 kids who stole My Choko's and tried to sell them back to me...
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 11:41

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 11:41
He He! That's funny Rick.

The neighbours sound more like ferals than mere yobbo's.
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Reply By: Niko - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:10

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:10
Radar Detectors are illegal in all States excluding WA. The only Radar Detector I recommend is the Bel from personal experience and word from distributors who sell both Uniden and Bel. You don't need it "fitted" as it can be suctioned to your windscreen.

http://www.octapc.com.au/category207_1.htm
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Reply By: Exploder - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:16

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:16
Just contact you local Gypsy Joker about the pistol., Wizard

Who cares if coops want’s a radar detector, judging by the fact that he lives in Kalgoorlie it would be used for country driving, and most of the roads in northern WA can safely be travelled at faster than 110 anyway, and like Davo said try going past a V triple and staying on 110 it just ant going to happen, and they are Legal in WA.

The bell model is the way to go, they do work but you have to be quick to hit the brakes, I do not have one just what I have been told.

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Follow Up By: Coops (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:26

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:26
thanks for that Exploder.
Frequent long country trips are a big part of my life at the moment for one reason or another and if you've ever been on the GE Highway on a Friday night you'd understand where I was coming from. Nothing but truck after truck after truck. We're in the middle of a resources boom at the moment and it's busy as all hell on the highway.
I am just researching and usually get good informed info from this site. This time was no different and fortunately I can tell the trees from the forest so have picked out info that I need.
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Reply By: Mark- Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:45

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:45
I hate it when people say "if you dont want to get caught dont speed". These are the people who drive at 90 in a 100 zone and cause more accidents that people driving at 110.
In QLD its LEGAL to sell and own a radar detector but not to use it in your vehicle.
Try Olbis communications (www.olbis.com.au). Make sure what you buy is tuned to Australian radar frequencies.

Most radar detectors are 'detected' by the Police regularly switching on and off their radar and looking for brakelights the instant they switch it back on. Its easy to get caught this way when the patrol car is behind you, particularly at night. Also dont place it in an obvious position on your dash. Stealth installations are available but it sounds like this is only going to be a problem for you if you go interstate.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:12

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:12
Last weekend I had some spanner head doing 70km/hr in a 110 zone in a new excel going down the SouthWest highway. She was holding up traffic including the semi's!! EVeryone sturggling to get around her, your right they are a danger on the road. Talk about banning 4wd's from the city and requiring special licenses!! Maybe we should ban dopey un confident drivers in excels from the country and make them get a "special" license if they want to leave the metro area!!

The surf cruises happily at 110km/hr fully loaded, but it's bloody hard work trying to pass in the 4 cyl diesel on tight roads. And you can get stuffed if you think I'm going to sit behind some stupid bat doing 70km/hr and STILL HAS TO SLOW DOWN FOR THE CORNERS!!

GET THEM OFF THE ROAD! Save lives!
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Reply By: joc45 - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 00:15

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 00:15
Dunno about the detectors, but a few people in WA in the last few years have taken to demolishing the Multanova cameras. A guy was in court the other day, fined and also charged $105,000 for replacing the destroyed unit. Ouch!!
I notice that now they mount the units near a large pole or obstacle to prevent drivers running over them.
Gerry
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Reply By: Goran - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 10:42

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 10:42
Coops, are you still in Hedland area? If you are, i can put you onto a bloke that imports latest top of the line Cobra models. Beltronics are the best and closely followed by Cobras. Everything else comes after those two brands. They are very efective for what you want them for. I use Cobra XRS 9700 and it has internal electronic compass as well.
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Follow Up By: Coops (Kalgoorlie) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 18:09

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 18:09
left town January Goran - part of the plant closure.
thanks for info
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Reply By: Nudenut - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 11:03

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 11:03
No matter how well a detector is hidden if it is detectable by an RDD you can be assured your vehicle will be searched. QLD Task Force Police have lately impounded vehicles in the north and centre of QLD detected with these latest imported radar detectors and taken to stations for dismantling when hasty search failed to find the unit on the spot.

One of the highlights of Radar Detector Shoot Out USA June 2004 produced the following results against the new Spectre 3 radar detector detector under evaluation. Escort 8500x50 and PNI 7500 frequency were shifted out of range making it undetectable to the Spectre MK 3! Both units are highly detectable by the Stalcar MK 3 RDD used in Australia! A number of US Police agencies complained about the high number of false alarms the Spectre 3 RDD also detects.

QLD has purchased more Stalcar MK 3 RDD.

RDD = radar detector detector...geez this aint fun any more
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Reply By: BenSpoon - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:28

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:28
Bels seem the way to go. Speaking with a taxi driver in town here he reckons it is gold. As mentioned, he had the X band adjusted as remote control roller doors and electric sliding doors etc were setting it off. Have heard of them being mounted behind the front bar to keep them well hidden- depending on where they mount I guess a copper could argue it is a vision obstruction.
Beltronics 980 Super Wideband Ka Radar Detector seems the goods.

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Reply By: d_p_gardiner - Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 16:22

Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 16:22
well i stopped reading about 2/3 of the way through ...... and only saw one recomendation for a detector......

I wonder if coops new what he was going to start when he asked this question....
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Follow Up By: Coops (Kalgoorlie) - Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 20:38

Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 20:38
couple of good responses d_p but some really helpful and informative member messages so it was worthwhile
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Reply By: woddonnee - Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 23:56

Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 23:56
G'day all
Guys, I am a road crash rescue responder (27+ years experience) and see the results of people speeding and get sick up to my eyeballs hearing people make pathetic excuses or childlike diversersions about their speeding (and probably tail gating) habits. Eg, they shouldn't put them on a hill. Well, speeding down a hill is worse than speeding on the flat as it extends your braking distance even more, if you are not able to control the speed of a vehicle going down a hill you are not skilled enough to hold a licence. By the way I was a speeding, tailgating hoon in another life :-)
Here in south oz about 12ish years ago after all the wingers cried about hidden speed cameras, the govt incredulously took them out of service for about 4 months. The increase in average speeds was incredible, the amount of fatalities and serious incidents escalated dramatically, very dramatically, like 6x, this was also found to be so by police and and insurance guy I spoke to at the time. Then the cameras came back, the speeds and fatalities did to. Everyone seems in a hurry on the roads, they leave 5 minutes late and try to arrive on time.
I highly recommend pulling back a bit, have a 2 second gap (at least) in front and try to anticipate everything, but don't be in to much of a hurry, the road is more of a conveyor belt than a racetrack.
End of sermon, don't get upset, get defensive :-)
cheers
Rod
PS I'm heading off to central oz next week, keep an eye out for the exploreoz wheel cover on the back of the van, you can give me the finger or thumbs up, depending on your point of view LOL
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Follow Up By: woddonnee - Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 23:57

Saturday, May 28, 2005 at 23:57
By the way, as stated above a cruise control is good if you have one, or speed alert. Driving a diesel though its easy to get in tune with the speed. :-)
cheers
Rod
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