Which red wine?

Submitted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:41
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Okay in my previous post about Cobbs I have had more than one person suggest I get the Cobb under way and "Enjoy another red wine".
I have always been a beer drinker but would like to try and enjoy a red wine however I have no idea what to try. I hate white wine except one or two different types. I dont like sweet wines but dont like the really dry ones either just something in between. I have had a red before that I drank with ice in the glass which made it much nicer to enjoy but cannot remember the name of it.

So does anyone have some suggestions on a red that is not to sweet but not really dry also?
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Reply By: old-plodder - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:51

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 17:51
Try a merlot, or for something sweeter, a lambrusco.
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Follow Up By: troy35 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:15

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:15
A Lambrusco is definitely too sweet for me as I have had it before, however a merlot sounds good, might give it a try.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:24

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 18:24
I definately second the Merlot suggestion.

There are some superb ones under $10
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Follow Up By: Member - Julie P (VIC) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 14:05

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 14:05
Try Brown Bros - Tarango (spelling?) not too heavy, not too light - served chilled - about $14 per bottle - beautiful. Bit lighter than merlot - nowhere near as sweet as lumbrusco -
enjoy - jules
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 19:28

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 19:28
By the sound of things you may have been drinking a Rose if you had ice with it. Rose's are becoming popular again. Also maybe a Pinot Noir, light and fruity.

Me i like anything that's red. The bigger and bolder the better.

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Follow Up By: troy35 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:05

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:05
No it wasnt Rose. Because we live in the tropics it was being consumed with ice becasue it was too warm as was, however I dont think you would normally drink it with ice. It was very nice though.
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Reply By: Stoo - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 19:49

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 19:49
May I suggest the following?

Henschke kyneton estate
Penfolds St Henri
Orlando St Hugo
Trevor Jones dry grown shiraz
Bowen estate Cab or Shiraz

Worth every cent.
enjoy!

Stoo
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Follow Up By: troy35 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:41

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:41
Thanks Stoo, will give some of them a try.
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:57

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:57
Some great wines there Stoo, but priced between $35 and $50. Have most of them in my cellar, but trying hard not to drink them until they are at least 10 years old for most vintages.
Unfortunately in Qld you need a refrigerated wine cellar or a very deep underground cellar to keep you wines. If you don't have one, drink them within a couple of months.

For good quality cheaper wines, ready for drinking now try:
Jacob's Creek Reserve Cab Sav
Penfolds Koonunga Hill
Rosemount Cab Sav
Leasingham Bastion Shiraz Cab Sav

All priced between $10 and $15. Heaps of other good ones in this range, but a fair bit of junk as well. Good wine shops (even the discount ones like Dan Murphy's and Theo's have people with reasonable knowledge and training. Doesn't hurt to ask for advice there.
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:03

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 23:03
Nah Stoo

To hell with it ... go for the 'Hill of Grace'

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:15

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:15
I've got a '91 Hill Of Grace that i'm still cellaring.

Bought it from Henshke in about '94 during a Barossa Gormet Weekend.
Payed $30 for it and at the time, it was the most expensive wine I had ever purchased. The bloke in front of me bought a case:-((

Probably could get $300+ for it at auction now, but to me it's still a $30 bottle of wine and I will consume it when the time is right. (with SHMBO of course)

Hey, anybody got a Grange to contribute and we could have a session:-))
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:44

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:44
have 12? maybe more grange cellaring here ...including and a few others of similar quality...
I'll invite you all around when i open one...dont hold your breathe but!!!

for a good cheap red cant go past rosemount's

I get the noname brands from dan murphy's for quaffing...usually the clare reds....good drop/s for a $5-8 bottle

but anything around around 15 and upward should be pallatable...
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Reply By: Member - Russell B (SA) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 19:58

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 19:58
Try Chateau Cardboard - Morris Pressings, really yummy.

Goes well with everything I've found.

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Reply By: Steve - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:22

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:22
What sort of vehicle do u drive ?... most important when answering ure post..
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Follow Up By: troy35 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:16

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:16
A GQ Patrol, but I am curious to know why that would matter????

Does it help to give you an idea of what I can afford? If thats the case I have four kids so chateau cardboard is probably my budget.
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Reply By: Member - JimW - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:32

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 20:32
Anything red in a box from $10 upwards

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:27

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:27
While workin for Southcorp I found some MAGIC wines.

Penfolds, Rosemount Estate, Lindemans, Wynns Coonawarra Estate,
Seppelt, Coldstream Hills, Devil's Lair, Leo Buring, Rouge Homme, Edwards & Chaffey, Tollana, Secret Stone, Herrick, Talomas, Ryecroft, Riccadonna, Lanson and Great Western to name a few of their wines.

http://www.coldstreamhills.com.au/
Way too good for cookin but The Reserve Cab Sav, is amazing. I have 2 doz of it sittin here, and before I worked there I hated wine. The Merlot is just as good. They were in Vintage when I finished my contract this yr, but they were already talkin of some "award winners" to add to their collection.

If your in Vic and head up there, introduce yourself to Jason or Michael at the Cellardoor. They looked after my 4wd club when they showed up one day. They know their wines, but are also just normal blokes, not stuckup toffee nosed scum ;)

Also look out for a NZ wine they have brought out, LITTLE PENGUIN.. Very VERY nice.

Remember one thing I learnt there, if its not good enough to drink, then it aint good enough to cook with.
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Follow Up By: troy35 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:40

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:40
I only want a bottle to drink with dinner truckster not start a wine cellar.

Seriously though I have seen the Southcorp wines and have tried Wynns Coonawarra I think. What is the Riccadonna you mention? I know of Asti Riccadonna which is a white wine, is that what your reffering to?
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Reply By: porlsprado - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:42

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 21:42
Live in the tropics ? i live in brisvegas and have learnt this - Where does red wine most famously come from ? France. Where is it bottled and stored in such circumstances ? France. What is the medium temp. of France, about 20C. Where is the red wine stored ? In cellars - medium temps. about 14 - 16C. (hope to be corrected here) so if you get a good red wine drink at French room temp. of about 19C not tropics room temp of about 35C. Makes a huge diff.
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Follow Up By: troy35 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:35

Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at 22:35
That is exactly why we were drinking this particular wine with ice. To bring it from 35C down to about 14C. It had just been brought out of the rack so hadnt been pre-chilled slightly in the fridge.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:29

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:29
Hey,

There's nothing wrong with chilling Red Wine. I do it all the time during the Summer.

Try a chilled bottle of red on a 30 deg + day.......delicious.

For a newby wine taster, try a straight Cabernet Sauvignon, or Cabernet Merlot blend. Usually a bit milder that the scruptuous shiraz, which is my favorite.
Red wine probably does take a little while to develop a taste for.
White wine, I can only drink one or two glasses of, then it tastes too sweet for me to really apreciate and that is something like a sauvignon blanc or other "dry" white wine.

Happy drinking, whatever you decide!
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Reply By: old-plodder - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 07:59

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 07:59
Don't tell him too many suggestions.
The fun is just having to try them all to see what you like :-).
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Reply By: Member - RockyOne - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:12

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:12
No mate! They've all got it wrong..All you need is a nice (not expensive) bottle of port..Why not a "wine cask" you ask..Reason! Only open the bottle when complete silence prevails ( birds tweeting will be ok) and that "first pour" is the one that will seal your fate..Why? Bring the bottle close,just slightly above your drinking vessel (glass/crystal) and slowly tilt the bottle 'till you hear an awesome series of gurgles..At this point,no wine has actually exited the neck of the bottle,so ,I suggest,having absorbed the preceding symphony of sounds,you tilt the bottle further and deposit some wine in the vessel..No doubt,you will sip the fluid,rather than drinking it.A warm glow is often felt in areas where we get "goose bumps" when cold.Some of us,about this time,deposit the cork/lid in the trash bag at this stage.Here endeth the lesson :-)
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Reply By: Nudenut - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:54

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 08:54
for those who might have a few penfolds laying down
Rewards of Patience
(lots of small pdf files)
I have an earlier version.... in 5 pdf files if anyone wants
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Reply By: Wombat - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:01

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:01
Troy,

I would humbly suggest, that as a newcomer to red wines you should start with something light and refreshing and over the years you will gradually work up to the big boys like Shiraz and Durif. In my opinion, if you are after a light red the best one in Australia is Rosemount New Australian Red and I think it's under $10 a bottle. It is a Beaujolais style wine which is made from the Gamay Noir à Jus Blanc grape and can be drunk at room temperature, but is nicer chilled. It used to be called "BJ" but the French got all precious about international wines being named after their wine making regions and demanded that Rosemount change the name. If you have trouble finding Rosemount New Australian Red, which I doubt, just ask at your local for a bottle of Australian Gamay and before long you'll be visiting wineries, buying wine in dozen lots and planning your very own cellar.
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:11

Thursday, May 26, 2005 at 13:11
BTW my favourite wine with a Cobb roast is Barossa Valley Estate's E & E Black Pepper Shiraz or Best's Pinot Menuir which is made from the fruit of vines which were planted in 1876.
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