Buying New Patrol ST-S 4.8ltr..HELP!

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 18:36
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Hi Everyone,

I am looking at buying the 2005 model Patrol ST-S 4.8 ltr petrol. I dont do a great number of kms but will drive from perth to exmouth, or down south maybe once a year. I do however have 23 foot boat which i tow and its up at 2 ton. Am not to concerned about fuel consumption but do want a nice ride that will handle well in the soft sand and on corrugated dirt roads. About 80 % of my driving is done in and around the city and suburbs. Am gettin heaps of xtras put on it at the factory ( alloy bar-spotties-side steps-roof bars-window tint-rear dust deflector-tow bar-cargo barrier-alarm-rear luggage mat ). Want to know what you all think about the ST-S model and the 4.8ltr engine and any good or bad points. Thanks everyone,
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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 20:46

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 20:46
Every thing I have herd about them is good apart from the thirst, and with 185KW and toque to boot it will enjoy towing the boat. One thing I would do is get the bull bar and spotlights from ARB, or TJM.

My resign looking at the Nissan alloy bar compared to my TJM alloy bar the TJM one look’s a lot more solid, also how good are the Nissan factory spotlight’s anybody?. A set of Cibie or IPF's Will probably preform better , or if you want some serious power light force 240’s .

Just my thoughts, could be wrong.

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Follow Up By: HeyDad - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 21:05

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 21:05
My Nissan factory spotlights are IPF.

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Follow Up By: Exploder - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 21:21

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 21:21
Ok, Thanks for clearing that up
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Follow Up By: Happy GU Owner - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:31

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:31
The IPF Lights from Nissan, aren't the same lights that you get from ARB. They look the same, but as we all know looks can be deceiving. In 2003, when I bought my car, the factory Nissan IPF lights only come with 100 Watt Globes, and when I suggested that I could upgrade to the 130 Watt Globes, I was told that the lights weren't the same, and weren't designed to handle the bigger wattage globes.

Check the wattage on the lights, to verify my story, as it now may have changed.

Mic
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Reply By: 4X4Treker - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 21:08

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 21:08
I took delivery of a GUIV STL 4 weeks ago with pretty well much the same extras and so far am very pleased with the vehicle both on and off road , the spot lights that Nissan fit are IPF and are quite good, the one thing that I would suggest is to fit air bags in the rear coil springs for when you do tow your boat , I have done this and it gives you good ride on and off road but more importantly helps with the load of the trailer when you are towing, I have done this as I tow a 2 ton off road caravan and the air bags work well.
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Reply By: flappa - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:04

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:04
Hard pressed to find a better tow vehicle if fuel price isn't the major factor.

If they are chucking in the IPF's for nothing . . . thats fine . . . DON'T pay for them.

Better lights to be had , if you have to fork over cash (Lightforce springs to mind).
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 18:21

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 18:21
When they first came out, one magazine reported... 54l/100klms !!!! in Low range soft sand work!

believe magazines though?
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Follow Up By: flappa - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:21

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:21
Yep , the same blokes that dont own the vehicle or pay for fuel.
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Reply By: brokenarrow - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 18:50

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 18:50
Thanks everyone,

I need as much help as i can get at the moment as im getting so many conflicting stories from all over the place. If i was to hypothetically say that it was a choice between the new patrol or a really good condition 80 series, what do you all think. I ve made u my mind to buy new, but was an idea that i was toying with a while back. I currently have a V6 Pajero, which is why im changing, How do the Patrols preform off road? Any one have any experiances or dramas?

Thanks for all your well welcomed replies so far!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 23:58

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 23:58
"If i was to hypothetically say that it was a choice between the new patrol or a really good condition 80 series, "

You could buy a lot of accessories with $25,000 which will be the difference in an 80 series and a new base model 4.8 GU and it wont be so bad when you scratch it.

ST-S Rec.Ret Price: $54190
ST-L Rec.Ret Price: $58440
Ti: Rec.Ret Price: $77690
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Follow Up By: flappa - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:24

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:24
Thats only something YOU can decide.

A brand new vehicle under factory warranty with all the latest and greatest , or a vehicle that is what . . . . 10 - 15 years old ?

The only thing is I guess , as soon as you drive the Patrol out the door , you're loosing $10k . . . at least the 80 has already lost its money.

Personally , I wouldn't do it. To much of an age difference. Whilst the 80's are good tough vehicles , they are starting to age. Anything with age has the potential for expensive problems.
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Reply By: 10 Para (Qld) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 19:34

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 19:34
Have had my Patrol 4.8 for 2 years now a great truck has cuased me no trouble at all up to 60,000 now and as they say it driks a lot we have a loaded weight of 3.5t and tow a 1.5 t offroad camper trailer and get 4k/litre and that is after putting a engine managment chip in which saved me 15% sure does drink, will be upgrading to an off road caravan for next year and will not change the truck but could change the engine to a 6.5 diesel just waiting for Brunswick to get the gear box right, we also run the correct tyres for the speedo check with the GPS 285X75X16 hope that helps.
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 23:22

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 23:22
1st dibs on the 4.8 :-)
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:50

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:50
One potential problem with older Toyos is the extraordinary cost of spares.

My 2000 78-series Troopy has just suffered a minor gearbox problem that left it stuck in 5th gear out near Willie Creek. I got it back to Broome by using the transfer box neutral and low range fifth to get it just rolling and into high.

The repair bill is expedcted to be close to $3000.

I like Troopies very much but my next 4WD will be a 4.2 litre DX Patrol.
Collyn Rivers
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Reply By: David Cox from Mount Dare Hotel - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 16:37

Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 16:37
G'day,

I've owned a Gu 4.8 for 2 years and live in the Outback, most of it's life is spent on dirt roads, my wife and I love it.
Our mods are
Long range fuel tanks
Nissan winch bar
IPF's
Warn 9000 winch
Autron Smartire sensors
ARB coils and shocks 50mm lift
cargo barrier etc,

Steer clear of the nissan bar, mine cracked go the ARB one, in fact go with ARB for all of your accessories, they have outlets everywhere. Get the Hella gas discharge spotties, about $1300 each, they'll be better than anything else.

Dave
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