Chain hire at the snowy

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 21:57
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Is there some place to hire snow chains for a day or 2 I want to take the wife and skids to the snow while we are doing in sydney cheers chris
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 22:26

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 22:26
Don't know about Snowies bit there are available every where in Vic Alps region. I don't think 4bys need to carry then in NSW but don't take my word for it.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 23:01

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 23:01
Snow in Shiatney? Wow it has been a while since I been there
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Reply By: Member - Mozza (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:45

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:45
Chris L, to answer your question > The hire of chains is available at Jindabyne as well as Cooma on the way to the NSW Snow Fields. Most service stations carry them. They're not very expensive.. and none are dearer/cheaper than others.
If you have a 4WD, i don't think you 'have' to carry chains.. but as said above.. i'm not definite abou that. Maybe someone can confirm this ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Mozza (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:57

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:57
snippet from NPWS homepage
"Snow chains should be fitted as directed by NPWS, RTA and Police officers. 4WD vehicles do not need to carry snow chains. "
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:02

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:02
I could never understand the notion that "4WD's do not need to carry snow chains".

Rubber is rubber, snow is snow and ice is ice..... and it doesn't matter whether or not you have two patches of rubber driving, steering and braking or two. You will slip.

Just because 4WD's have the ability to drive through four slippery patches of rubber, they are no better off when it comes to stopping.......

I always carry chains - and use them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:03

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:03
sorry...edit: "...have two patches of rubber driving, steering and braking or four"....
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Follow Up By: snowman - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:26

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:26
Hi Chrispy
I would have to disagree with what you said. Thats like saying when your out in the bush that it makes no difference whether you have a 4wd or 2wd. Next time your down in the mountains maybe you should visit Perisher Valley carpark one night and have a play and you will soon see the difference.
Cheers Dave
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Follow Up By: Redback - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:42

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:42
Sorry snowman but i have to agree with Chrispy here, aspecially after talking to the guy that drives the Mt Buller 4WD recovery truck, HE CARRIES CHAINS, why because even 4WDs need them his words and i know he recovered me when stuck in the high country in that truck.

He said and i quote i recover more 4WDs than any other vehicle in the snow because they don't fit chains when they should.

Don't believe me ring him at the mobil garage in Bonnie Doon, Vic.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Redback - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:46

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:46
Oh and better to be safe than sorry.

$960 it cost me to get recovered and he used chains to get up one section of the hill i was stuck in !!!!

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Follow Up By: snowman - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:03

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:03
Hi Baz
The original question was for the NSW ski fields. I dont know how they manage their roads in Victoria so will not comment. I have worked at Perisher since 1991 so i do have some experience. Driving on snow covered tracks is different to drive on snow covered sealed roads.

At the end of the day everyone should only drive to there abilities!

And there are heaps of places to pick up chains from in Jindabyne and Cooma

Cheers Dave
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Follow Up By: snowman - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:10

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:10
15cm of snow last night and it is still snowing now
Cheers Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:48

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:48
Snowman - I live just outside of Cooma. I kinda "play" in it all the time.....

Take a 2WD car and a 4WD car. Get onto some hard-packed snow (turning to ice in the afternoon - we DO live in Australia) doing a few km per hour, and apply brakes on both cars.

Difflocks and aggressive tyres will do you squat. 4 cold patches of rubber under brakes are the same in a 2wd AND 4wd.
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Follow Up By: snowman - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:11

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:11
As i said before "drive to your abilities". If your silly enough to put brakes on whilst driving on ice and loose control, your driving beyond your ability.
Cheers Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:17

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:17
I'm not going to argue with you Dave - it's a moot point. I understand the physics - I live in the stuff and have driven in snow for around 25 years. The problems is that people exist who don't.....

There are plenty of people who do it every year - and lots of these people think that because they run a nice new 4WD they're infallible on snow and ice. Call them "silly"... there are plenty of them who have never experienced snow driving let alone been offroad at all. They just don't have any experience. Are you going to recommend to them that they shouldn't use chains? If I see one of these people behind me, I'll just pull over and let impending disaster pass thankyou....
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Follow Up By: snowman - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 13:04

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 13:04
Baz
I agree with your last post. I would never stop a person from putting chains on. I have not said that anyone should not fit chains be it a 2wd or 4wd. My response was to your comment that "...and it doesn't matter whether or not you have two patches of rubber driving, steering and braking or four"....
As there is plenty of snow falling here today( any in Cooma?) how about we have a snowball fight and last man standing wins ;-)
Cheers Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 13:09

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 13:09
FYI - Cooma had the coldest recorded temp in the country last night: -6. No snow yet - at least not where we are. Dry Plains ain't called "Dry Plains" for nothing.... we're in a double-rain shadow near Adaminaby and rarely get MOISTURE, let alone snow.....

.... but we got a foot on our hill last year :)
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Reply By: Tony J - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 17:39

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 17:39
OK, Here's a question, On a part time 4wd, should chains be fitted to front or rear for snow/ice covered roads AND should I be in 2wd or 4wd when/if chains fitted? Vehicle fitted with front auto locker and rear air locker. Are chains available for 33 inch tyres?
TIA
Tony J
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 22:28

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 22:28
Chris, depends on what size tires you have too.. they will have them for all the 'small' sizes or common sizes..
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 22:56

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 22:56
His rig info says a Pajero on 31's. I presume he means 245/75-16's or 265/70-16's or thereabouts. Should be able to get a standard set given that - they're pretty common sizes these days.
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