Self inflating matresses - Brendon Soo
Submitted: Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 19:58
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Brendon Soo
Hi,
My son and I just camped over last week's long weekend at Abercrombie National Park. We were on rapidly deflating air mattresses. I am not overly impressed to say the least now resigned to the fact that these blow up mattresses are unreliable.
Does anyone have any recommendations or experience with any specific self inflating mattresses that may be worth considering?
Thank you in advance,
Brendon Soo
Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:13
Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:13
I seriously don't think these things "self inflate".
Self inflating suggests sucking in air against atmospheric pressure. Not unlike our lungs do.
These supposed "self inflating" mattresses are simply a high density foam mattress inside a sealed bag that remains compressed after you squeeze all of the air out of it. The sealed bag does not it let it regain its form due to lack of air.
When you undo the valves it just lets the foam absorb air as it would naturally.
We all know we can tightly roll a foam mattress and tie it up; but it immediately expands at any point where it is not tied. In the "self inflating" jobs they are in effect tied alll over by the cover.
Think of them as a foam mattress that can be kept compressed. They are indeed a good space saving device, nothing more.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:51
Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:51
Fantastic , slept on them for years, after we all had the air bed let down, we didnt even bother with the plugs but had many good nights sleep, we had the coleman ones, 4" thick, yes more bulky but a good sleep which is essential.
We used to put double sleeping bag over it and it works
well
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 21:23
Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 21:23
Jimbo,
You've just described perfectly a Self Inflating Matress.
D-Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Monday, Jun 20, 2005 at 07:55
Monday, Jun 20, 2005 at 07:55
I don't doubt for a second they are good.
Just the term "self inflating" is a misnomer.
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Reply By: porlsprado - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:45
Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:45
well i went round australia in '89 and slept almost every night on a "self infating mattress" and it lasted at least 7 months on every conceivable surface, tyre shredding rocks in the
Pilbara to volcanic stuff in the NT and on the nullabor whatever (was on a motorbickle). But i never relied totally on the "self inflating" aspect as three or four mouthfulls of air made a huge difference. I bought it cause as the time it was advertised as the best insulation against ground coldness. Eventually consigned it to the sometimes shelf cause it was quite thin and i like to sleep on my side. If yours leaks then its either holes in the mattress or a dud valve. They have their place in camping but should not leak. Forget the brand, but if you like sleeping on your side i'd suggest your normal K-Mart blow up, cheap reliable and easy to fix.
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Reply By: Boo - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:49
Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 20:49
Evening Brendon Soo,
Know exactly how you feel in regards to the old style air mattresses, I've got two
young kids and over the years have also had the annoyance of mattresses going down. Really not much fun. We are also looking at getting a couple of single self inflating jobies to use later this year, We've looked at several different brands and from what we're able to tell the comfort of the mattress is dependant on the quality and density of the foam insert not the thickness of it. Some of the thin ones (around 3cm thick) are a lot better than the thicker 5cm jobs. The main problem I found with the thicker ones is they are a lot more bulky for packing. Only problem is the thin compact ones get a lot pricier as
well. The single ones also come in a lot of different sizes too from a narrow single to a quite wide one as
well as a range of lengths so you may need to consider the size of your kids and will they last several years.
Just a bit of food for thought, hope it helps, and happy camping.
Just one last point.. the better quality ones with the denser foam stop the cold from penetrating through where the cheaper ones dont as
well.
Boo.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 21:28
Sunday, Jun 19, 2005 at 21:28
Hi Brendan Soo,
Just spent 5 weeks in the swag on a Thermarest Expedition. Fantastic. Can't speak highly enough of it.
I'd unroll the swag & let it inflate (or uncompress Jimbo...) then before bed put 4 puffs into it and screw the cap on.
If the expedition doesn't look thick enough then go the
Camp & Comfort series.
Thermarest website
They aren't cheap but they are worth every cent.
Mine was $140 I think but if you work it out and I've slept on it at least 50 nights in the last 12 months it's bugger all really a night.
The swag rolls up heaps smaller too.
Wait for Rays to have a big sale if you want them a bit cheaper.
Dave
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Reply By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Monday, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:52
Monday, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:52
We thought long and hard about the "self inflating mattresses" and got the thermarest, couldn't be happier, (we already had a blow up one and found it cold to sleep on) it had been suggested to us by another camper to get two thermasrest and using wide elastic figure 8 them together top and bottom for "togetherness". Much easier to roll up two than one big one. We vary at times using X stretchers and left the mattresses behind last trip and we sure noticed the cold coming up even on the stretchers. They are
well worth the cost, we don't have the very thickest but still find them comfortable and from other comments they last many years. Lots of the camping stores are having sales and we got ours substantially reduced. A comfortable warm good nights sleep is priceless.
Carolyn
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