Landcruiser HJ61 Auto Trans. Question

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:45
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I have a 1988 HJ61 turbo diesel with 4 speed auto. It's done 385000 km and neither motor or auto have been touched apart from normal (fussy ) service. Motor and auto trans. are still going fine. Am about to head off on a 6 month trip with 1600 kg caravan on tow. I know the motors are tough, but believe most auto trans. require work or rebuild before this number of kms.
The QUESTION is....Should i have the auto overhauled at cost of anything up to $3500 to avoid a breakdown the other side of the black stump?
What would you do...The truck's only worth about $10,000.
If i have it done up, can anybody recommend a GOOD auto trans. man in Melbourne?
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Reply By: Footloose - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:59

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:59
If you have doubts, spend the money. Think of the cost of retrieval of your selves, car and trailer and then mech work somewhere out in the boonies.
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Reply By: Member - Dashmir E (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:46

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:46
G'day aahjay, I have a hj61 4 speed auto also .Do a search on wholsale automatics on internet and check their website out.Look at the latest news section and there is a whole article on these transmissions. I am going to rebuild mine when i gather some cash.The guy (Rodney) quoted $3150 but said he can do it for $2950.Their ph is 9762 8004. Let me know what you think and how you go.
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Follow Up By: aahjay - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 14:00

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 14:00
Thanks Dashmir and Footloose. I agree ,looks like I will get it done to be on the safe side. Just have to pick someone to do the job. I will check the place you mentioned Dashmir, not far from me.
Any other advice would be appreciated.
Rod
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 15:44

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 15:44
Speak to Rodney at Wholesale Automatic Transmissions in Melbourne...he does a tranny exchange for 2000 and a bit, there is nothing he doesnt knowe about your tranny, he specialises in yota autos, i bought a shift kit off him for my 94 petrol auto, i would have a service and dont worry about it, but ask the pro for his feelings...
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:16

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:16
Hi dozer
I would speak to this Rodney, and take all details with you and if you get into trouble you will have the 3 grand to get one shipped out IF you need it, just have the rest serviced and go. If it aint broken dont fix it?
Best of luck
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Reply By: banjodog - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:09

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:09
Just do the normal serice of the auto before you go and keep the ~$3000 for the new auto in your pocket.

If you haven't already, and it looks like your in VIC, join RACV and take the "Total Care" membership at $161.00 - (from the RACV site) Towing and Recovery - If your vehicle breaks down more than 100km from home and RACV can’t get you started, then you are entitled to:
up to 10 nights accommodation, and
up to 10 days rental vehicle.
Recovery for your vehicle, you and your passengers when you are more than 100 km away from home.
Towing your car to the attending service centre(up to 100km).
Arrange a rental car for one day when you are close to home and your vehicle needs to be towed.

If it were me I wouldn't spend the money if it wasn't necessary - keep it for when you do need it.

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Follow Up By: aahjay - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:18

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:18
G'day Dozer and banjodog. So far two replies recommend Wholesale Automatics in Melbourne. Checked their website which is very informative and says these autos should do 350000 to 500000 with proper service. So, banjodog , your suggestion makes sense. Gotta make a decision soon. Thanks for your help. Rod
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:59

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:59
"Motor and autotrans going fine" sort of answered your own question I would spend more time checking out your battery and tyres they are by far and away the biggest source of problems
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:54

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:54
The proof is in the pooding they say...and you mentioned you service it regularly....this is why you have 350kms on it and another 150 to go...nothing kills a a442f quicker than a 1fzfe 4.5 and old oil, new oil and it lives on...same with motors..no change the oil, no change out of a few thousand dollars.
I second the RACV top cover idea, you will probably put a new motor in b4 the auto goes, wrecking yards are full of the autos no-one needs. Rodney will tell you though, that your a440f suffers from overheating, especially if towing....so speak to him and get the right advice first time....he wont try to sell you a new auto, but if it does hit the fan, he will ship an auto to wherever you are towed to and will beat all the other places for price.
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Follow Up By: aahjay - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 18:20

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 18:20
Thanks to all for your advice. Here's something i should have asked in the first place.......Do auto trannys usually fail gradually and give some signs that they are on the way out , or do they just blow up without warning. I know this shows my sorry lack of knowledge , but that's why I have to ask somebody who knows. Rod
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 18:44

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 18:44
Firstly, if they start taking longer to get into gears like when you put it in reverse, if there is a longer than usual delay before it takes up..thats a sign of problems.
Secondly, if the oil starts to discolour or smell burnt, then thats a sure sign of problems luming.
The usual service is where a problem is usually picked up...in what they find in the pan and in the oil...
The cruisers use clutches, than dont usually give problems. Where problems occur is when the box is overheated or it tarts to wear and the oil is not changed. The filter blocks up and some stuff gets into the valvebody and stops things working properly.
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Follow Up By: aahjay - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 20:05

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 20:05
Thanks Dozer I will book it in to Wholesale Autos for a service then Rod can give me his opinion of what , if anything, needs doing.thanks again. Rod
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