Boofheads and Firewood

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 15:44
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Why is it that some 4WDers have to have BIG fires?? I observed 2 couples last weekend towing logs in from a 20 mile radius- onto a fire they couldn't get closer than 30 feet. Then they set up their gas cookers for dinner!!
No thought of other users AGAIN- a case of stuff you..I'm OK. I always take at least half a sugarbag of wood when away..most times I bring it home..but it's there if I need it. And what better than have a nice líl fire you can sit around- and do the cooking & boil the billy on.

And while I'm on the soap box...4WDers and grog. I agree nuthin better than a quite ale after a big day of hard driving BUT..why is it some people can't have a good day followed by gettin pie-eyed and roudy. And the 4wd magazines don't help. Some of their reporters can't change a wheel without having a six pack of XXXX to help??

I'm sure none of the nice people on this forum fit into this group of what I can only call BOOFHEADS.
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Reply By: Penguin (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 16:02

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 16:02
XXXX! That says it all, doesn't it. ;-)
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Follow Up By: Michael Carey - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:18

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:18
Isn't there something around about Queenslanders, XXXX and the ability to spell BEER??
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Only joking!!! (-;
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:12

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:12
To be correct the beverage of choice consumed in some of the 4wd magazine stories is actually VB...............
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:22

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:22
Some of the fires are very excessive, I don't mind a mid sized fire, but yeah it's got to match the amount of people. Obviously a group of 10 is going to have a bigger fire than me and the missus. But I have seen some stupid things fire wize...

Grog... Well. If my best mate and I go away for a boys weekend I can guarantee you we'll be "pie eyed", but if it's a family thing or group thing with other families etc a few quieties are the go.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:25

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:25
whats that old saying - the bigger the fire, the bigger the fool !!

Couldn't agree more champ
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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:29

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:29
My wife and I once had a night away with a 4WD club that provided itself on its environmental care -[ to the extent of hgaving an 'environment officer'.

That evening they had a fire that must have been five metres across. The mind boggled at what they would have done had they not 'cared for the environment'
Collyn Rivers
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Reply By: Jodi - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:27

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:27
Teehee - that made me laugh for so many reasons. I completely agree about the firewood. It is so hard to get your hands on it legally as it is, these people just create more reason for collecting timber to be banned. I'm fortunate enough to work for a company that manufactures furniture so before a weekend trip I get a bag of offcuts and on the way we collect a few logs to keep the fire burning longer.

As for the beer, well, I must say we have been guilty of over indulging and enjoying on the occasional trip - however it's when the enjoyment factor becomes loud and disruptive to anybody within a five mile radius that I get really pi**ed off. I've made posts on this site in the past about other campers we have come accross, last weekend we had a forestry guy telling us about some campers he had to kick out of toolangi state forest at 4am as they were shooting empty cans off tree stumps with another campsite about 50m behind the cans they were shooting. When asked to leave they proceeded to throw their tents, chairs and everything else onto the fire.

No wonder there are so many regulations on how we can use parks and forests...
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:18

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:18
Well at least they did the right thing burning all their camping gear to reduce the chances of them making the same mistake again.....Credit where it is due....
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:51

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 17:51
Agree wholeheartedly

That is why I travel alone(maybe one other vehicle) and do not camp with others. I avoid popular places on weekends or school holidays.

The grog thing is one reason I have vowed never to buy another 4WD Monthly magazine.

No education is required to buy an amount of grog and to consume it whilst bragging about your exploits out bush. Another reason I gave clubs away is because of the drunken boofhead element.

Then again, I have been known to do silly things, especially at ExplorOz gatherings...hahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:41

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:41
Willem , even those of us who've never met you have heard about certain aspects of your behaviour on occasions ....I'm not sure if white lightening is a drink or a behaviour :))))
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:47

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:47
Hahahahaha.......good one Footloose.

I am very pleased to have emptied the contents of the bottle of White Lightning. 70% proof it was!!

Have a new bottle of whitish stuff for Birdsville. Not that strong though :o)
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:53

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 18:53
As I don't partake at all these days (medical) I can see I have a hard act to follow. The question is, do I get a smile or thrown out if I mention your name around Australia :))
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:05

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:05
Hopefully I am unknown.

Better to be BIG fish in a LITTLE pond than vice versa :o)
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:07

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:07
Totally agree. I'll be sure not to mention white or greased lightning :))
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Follow Up By: nickoff - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:19

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:19
Willem

You are better known that you think. I first met you in the late 70' in post Cyclone Tracy Darwin

Mad you were then too!

Nickoff.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:37

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:37
nicoff.......

More information please.
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Follow Up By: govo - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:25

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:25
''The grog thing is one reason I have vowed never to buy another 4WD Monthly magazine.''

ummmm..you lost me a bit here...did buying the magazine turn you into a alco or you were one before you bought it ????
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 02:45

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 02:45
govo, think hes refering to Roothy in 4wd monthly who does segments on mangling his green 40 series and never does anything too it without a carton
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 09:52

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 09:52
Nickoff

Show yourself!! You can email me through my website below

Govo

Mmmm used drink beer in the Territory till it ran out of my eyelids. Bit more subdued now. What annoys me is that the writers in 4WD Monthly cannot do anything without consuming copious amounts of grog and bragging about it.

I am no wowser but the perpetrators of those articles in that magazine come across as idiots as well as being arrogant(CSR article of some months back). Hence my private ban on buying their magazine.
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Reply By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:58

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 19:58
Signman I say...

It's not JUST 4WDer's and grog & fires.

There are a lot of clowns out there burning up our country and drinking p!ss around it out of control.

I don't even own a 4by but I resent you tarring them all with the same brush.

MY correction of your post is as follows...

Why is it that some d!ckheads who like the outdoors have to have BIG fires?? I observed 2 couples last weekend towing logs in from a 20 mile radius - onto a fire they couldn't get closer than 30 feet. Then the fnckwits set up their gas cookers for dinner!!
No thought of other users AGAIN- a case of stuff you..I'm OK. I always take at least half a sugarbag of wood when away..most times I bring it home..but it's there if I need it. And what better than have a nice líl fire you can sit around- and do the cooking & boil the billy on.

And while I'm on the soap box ... Fully grown adults and grog. I agree nuthin better than a quite ale after a big day of hard driving BUT ... why is it some people can't have a good day followed by gettin pie-eyed (and act like fnckwits). You wouldn't behave that way if your mum was there would you? Grow up.

And the 4wd magazines don't help. Some of their reporters can't change a wheel without having a six pack of XXXX to help??

I'm sure none of the nice people on this forum fit into this group of what I can only call BOOFHEADS.

Wake up people, I love this Country and it truly saddens me to see you all act like asswipes. We can have a great Nation if we all stick together. C'mon let's go.
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Follow Up By: signman - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:49

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:49
Mate
I did say SOME 4WDers...and the places I see this stupidity is only 4WD accessible and the people involved are 4WDers.
I see you have learned to copy & paste- but the descriptions of the individuals you have inserted are not of my preferences.
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Follow Up By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 15:30

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 15:30
I concede defeat.

I only see the d!ckheads where the bus can go. So you are miles ahead of me.

I have met some 4WD owners though ... and I can't truly imagine them fireing up the way you say while camping out where you go.

They just won't

To say that "some 4wders" is seperating them from the world and putting "them" into a class of their own. I will go with that as long as you meant it as a way to direct/target you comments TO 4WDers in a way to plea to their sensible ears.

And don't get me wring signman, I HATE THOSE FNCKWITS OUT THERE with their rubbish and foul attitudes.

I don't care when they drink or put in their veins. But if they come near me with that crap. I gonna try like hell to jam it up their ass.

Peace to all.
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Reply By: Steve - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:37

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:37
spot on Musty.

Trouble is, when you're camping, it doesn't even need to be rowdy to keep other campers awake half the night. Sound carries.

We live and learn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:55

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:55
If the campers next door are too rowdy.................. you must be in the Eastern states
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Follow Up By: Skinny- Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 12:20

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 12:20
Long weekend in June we had our kids with us and a group of campers. Some lairs in a new flash new v8 Landie came in , they left there car running for 3 hours for some reason and at 9:30 turned on the stereo full blast with some really heavy music.....they had it so loud the speakers were almost jumping out the doors.
After half an hour of hearing neighbours swearing I took a walk to thier site and asked them why it was that they thought everyone else wanted to listen to thier music. The guys just said no worries, but one of the older women (who had turned it on in the first place) said you dont have to be narcy about it we can play it till 2.30 if we like.

I said I assumed that because she had not considered anybody other than herself in the first place, there was no point reasoning with her, I will be back at 5am with the kids to play soccer outside her tent.

The music went off. Now i am not afraid of a party or two, but when someone rolls into a camp of people and take over by destroying the peace and quiet, its a bit rich. And yes they had a huge campfire to eat thier gas cooked meal by. And no I did not get the brand of beer they were drinking.

Why did they go camping????

Skinny
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:41

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 20:41
YAWN
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Reply By: WheelTravel - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:02

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:02
Grunt, groan, heave, push, wheeze,

Just can't seem to get this stick outta the mud!!!

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:13

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 21:13
Each to there own Signman , I make small/ tiny fires ,boil the billy,cook the stew, and bake the damper , my crew then demand BIG flames to kill the marshmellows , as for the booze/ grog , SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW IT IS 10AM ,,, TIME FOR A BEER ,,, your away from your everyday mundane ,,,learn to ENJOY LIFE. ps ,,, YOU ARE QUITE WELCOME TO CALL ME A BOOFHEAD AS LONG AS YOU DONT MIND ME CALLING YOU A RICHARD CRANIUM , pps, to all resonable members of the forum I apologise for my shouting.
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Follow Up By: signman - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:51

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:51
OK Alloy....you're a BOOFHEAD
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Reply By: govo - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:21

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:21
AAAAAhhhh the do gooders..don't you just love em...you have to buy the same vechile as them, eat what they eat, drink what they drink and live as eacatly like they live ..but just don't get caught watching Big Brother uncut..god forbid.
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Follow Up By: signman - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:55

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:55
Nah mate//I don't take the TV when I go away..or the microwave or the hot/cold shower or the computer.
And really- I don't give a rats arrrse as to what vehicle you drive- or what you eat- or what you drink- and I really don't give a stuff how you live.
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:25

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:25
My friends and I, who are from this forum, enjoy a nice fire and many drinks and fine conversation.

I carry a chainsaw to cut up dead wood and clear tracks as needed. Old fallen trees that rot away make a great fire whilst they are still in a burnable state.

There is nothing quite like good company around a fire with a few drinks. It makes the bush trips into gatherings.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 00:52

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 00:52
Too Right Jimbo

Its a great time to chat about the day of discovery, laugh about the adventure and lucky escapes from the day and plan the following days tour.

You know we love it........ and it beats being bloddy cold...

say hi to Jen, see you when we get back

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Reply By: Nick R - Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:27

Wednesday, Jun 22, 2005 at 22:27
Quite simple,
small fire => not much wood to bring / gather / cut
Why make work for your self!!!
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 13:57

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 13:57
Just a couple of thoughts depending on where you are camped:

Towing in a log can do less environmental damage than collecting every bit of small wood around a camp. Landowners whose properties we use often suggest we do this to prevent areas around camps being denuded of wood.

If you're in a bigger group, then a single central campfire is the only way to go. If you've got half a dozen camp ovens going on a fire, you need enough coals, which means you need to burn enough wood.

A lot of us have a preference for heading out into the deserts, so we aren't bound by permapine posts, and camped next to drunken morons playing Rodney Rude tapes at midnight. I pity our friends in the Eastern States that seem to have to put up with crowded camp sites that are bound to contain the odd moron.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: signman - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:40

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:40
Ahhh..sorry to say Phil, this incident was in SA..in a semi arid area where wood is scarce. I think it's OK to use some wood laying about and leaving some kindling for the next traveller, but my query is why some people tend to go 'over the top' - just coz they can. If you note on my post, it was not a large group- just 4 people.
I also note this post has attracted a fair amount of 'views' and a number of responses.
Have a good one and I'll see ya on the wallaby. Heading up to Coober Pedy 16th next month- the heading West onto Anne Beadell & Connie Sue.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:18

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:18
Signman,

I think the points you make are good.

And speaking of firewood, the mulga out in the Great Victoria Desert burns so hot, you'll be happy NOT to have an inferno :-))) Enjoy - great part of the country out there.

Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Robert - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 15:48

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 15:48
Well said Signman, good to see someone speak up on what's right and wrong.

For some "tread lightly" is all talk, but in reality not done!

Amazing how some get quite upset when challenged on what is acceptable behaviour. Could it be a guilty conscience?

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 21:54

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 21:54
Tread lightly like this??

!MPG:8!
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 23:47

Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 23:47
Im a boof, I like a massive inferno... its a must to keep everyone warm.
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Follow Up By: signman - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:19

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:19
That would be right Truckster- your reputation is still talked about in the Sutherland area.
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Follow Up By: Robert - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:22

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:22
Signman - care to fill us in on what happened in the Suthered area.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 12:53

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 12:53
A reputation...you mean all the chicks regarded him as the town bike :)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:46

Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:46
Shame I was never known as Truckster up in Toiletville.

Ray, Oh how I wish that was true.. started a new job today.. theres a deadset babe upstairs :D but I'm sitting next to a shemale with a pink mowhawk... Arent I lucky?
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Follow Up By: signman - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 14:11

Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 14:11
Thats correct Truckster...but you can't hide behind a 'nickname'....
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 15:02

Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 15:02
Who is hiding?
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Follow Up By: signman - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 15:40

Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 15:40
Don't worry Bruce..you're reputation is safe with me......
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Reply By: BenSpoon - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 01:12

Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 01:12
boofhead and proud.
wheres my bundy.....
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