Alpine diesel

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 22:08
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What the ??? We are heading to the Victorian High Country and I was reading that it is recommended that you use alpine deisel. How is this different to normal deisel and if I need it can I get it easily? I drive a Pagero 3.2. Any imput to clear this up for me would be great as I am new to the world of deisel power plants. Now that bio deisel is a whole other ball game, yeah.
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 22:40

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 22:40
It has an additive to stop the waxes and other components of the fuel from seperating and forming gel type substance. You can purchase additives to add to your own tank, or you can get it at most servo's in the alpine regions.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 22:43

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 22:43
My understanding is it is more refined and contains less (no) wax which will solidify in cold weather. Another way is to mix some lrp with the diesal but living in Kalgoorlie I dont pay too much attention to these posts try a search as it comes up often (try archive search)
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 23:26

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 23:26
Just as a bit of useful trivia, I looked it up. When you said it was more refined, it rang a bell and as I'm at work while most are asleep, it occupied my mind for 5 mins...

BP alpine diesel

It has heating oil added to it.
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Reply By: GUPatrol - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:19

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:19
http://www.bp.com.au/products/fuelnews/winter_diesel.asp
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:50

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 14:50
Thats good info, thank you.
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Reply By: Antony - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:44

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:44
Thanks for the info evryone. I have done the research and its avaliable in the alpine areas. It stops the wax solidifing.
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 15:26

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 15:26
My car, with a common-rail diesel had problems on Sydney fuel last weekend down at our place in Cooma. It was only -1 degree overnight too. I was unable to drive anywhere for hours in the morning. The engine barely started, and huge plumes of blue smoke went everywhere. I turned it all off and let her warm up in the sun for a few hours.

Common-rail engines seem to be particularly susceptible to waxed-up diesel - probably due to the fact that the injector openings are so much smaller than usual diesel engines, and that fuel is fed at around the 23,000 psi mark to the injectors via the rail.

I usually fill up when I get there with alpine diesel as a matter of course. I was just in too much of a hurry this time and I paid the price.
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 16:07

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 16:07
Pouring warm water over the lines and the fuel filter helps, once started the warm fuel returning to the tank is enough to warm the rest.
The main issue is waxing at the pipes and injectors, may take a couple of goes but it works.

Will
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 17:34

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 17:34
hehe... the problem is actually FINDING anything familiar under the bonnet to pour warm water on..... dang CRD complexity!!!!
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 15:32

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 15:32
Some times known as 'winter' diesil. Note, if you fill a large storage tank with diesil in the summer time to ready for winter then you may be in trouble when the temp drops. Fuel companies alter the mix in cold climates from summer to winter but do not announce it to the public.
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Reply By: Adza75 - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 19:09

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 19:09
Alpine diesel is apparently available as far north as Mittagong, all the way down into Victoria. It's only got heating oil added to it to stop it from going solid in the lines.
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