new hilux?
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:16
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slydog
My situation has a changed a bit which means my 78 series needs to go and I was thinking about the new hilux and is it any good
SR or SR5 DUAL CAB turbo diesal cab chassis
I love my cruiser but variety of issues such as selling my main business coupled with arrival of baby and fuel prices means its an overkill which is no good for the three of us, but I still need a ute
I would be grateful for thoughts
Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:45
Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:45
I can't substanciate it but have been reading in various
places that the new TD Hilux is averaging around 14l/100km. If these figures are true, they are using more fuel than my V6 Triton(12l/100km) and more that your 78 series(assuming it's diesel & based on my step fathers 75 series troopy with turbo'd 1HZ getting 12l/100km running around
Darwin), perhaps another DC Ute would better fill the void...
Of course I'm happy to stand corrected, as previously stated it's all about what I've read and NO 1st hand experience...
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:53
Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:53
Blue, see my post below. I've done 10,000 km in my 05 TD. Suspect there aren't many around with that much on them yet. Some off road and beach(including low range) but mostly on road. Before loading up with extras I was getting 11km per litre. I think this is about 9 litres per 100 km. Even with the ectra load I'm not doing much worse.
If anyone is getting 14 litres per 100 km, they should either stop thrashing it, or take it back to the dealer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 23:32
Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 23:32
G'day Norm,
happy you're doing better and I see a second post with better figures... According to a couple of posts on other forums(can't remember one here) and a magazine article(comparo), the guy's had resorted to driving like grandpa's(no offence to any grandpa's here...) and still no joy. Apparently Toyota are unwilling to go further than recommending a change in driving style, even after being informed of the very conservative style(claimed) already in place.
This may go the way of the Ford Territory fuel problems... On the ford forums some are claiming upwards of 16l/100km driving conservatively on mostly highway and one bloke claiming 9l/100km driving in a normal manner mostly around town... According to these guy's, Ford are unwilling to treat it as a problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 23:34
Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 23:34
Also, if I'd read a little more carefully, I'd have realised the second reply I mentioned, is in fact the one you already told me you had put there...
Cheers
Blue
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Follow Up By: Member - toohey - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:59
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:59
gid'ay blue
mate is looking for a good 78,what year,whats it got&what $$$$$
regards toohey.
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:47
Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 22:47
I've got the SR5 TD. Great vehicle. Already done 10,000 km.
If I had my time again, I'd probably get the SR and option it up. I've removed the sports bars and fitted a conopy. Will remove the rear step and replace it with steel. Have already removed the alloy side steps and replaced with custom made steel. Removing these SR5 items is my reason for the comment.
My only problem is ramp over, which I have improved with the new side steps and will improve further with a small lift. Departure angle is not great (but no problem so far). I will improve with removal of the current chrome rear step and the lift.
You will also want to change the factory tyres. They are cr@p. I fitted Cooper ATRs.
Otherwise a great vehicle. Vey comfortable and well finished. Very quiet on road. Great power; drives like a petrol. Got about 11km per ltr until I fitted the canopy, drawer unit, fridge and deep cycle battery. Now get about 10.7, which is still very good.
Wife loves it too and enjoys driving it. Kids are grown up and have own cars. Rear seats are OK for
young kids, but a long trip with adults in the back would not be good. We did the
Condamine Gorge today with 4 adults and no one complained, but I think son (6 ft 4) was a bit cramped. I was in the drivers
seat, so I was OK.
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Follow Up By: Member - toohey - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 08:04
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 08:04
i stuffed up blue
query on 78 ment for slydog,i have'nt even been drink'in.
regards toohey.
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Reply By: garrycol - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 00:39
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 00:39
Fine car if you are happy driving the most 'dog ugly' car around at the moment!
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Reply By: Glenn (VIC) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:47
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:47
Have you considered possibly converting the 78 series into a ute?
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Reply By: troy - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 18:17
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 18:17
Check this site out about $10,000 to convert the 78 series to a dual cab.
http://www.creativeconversions.com.au/
If going for the new hilux just go for the SR as all your really missing out on are cup holder.
Troy
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 18:24
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 18:24
or alternatively contact me....or rather Al ;)
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 18:51
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 18:51
I have seen the exact vehicle you need, for around $10k over the price of the Cruiser wagon, try www.griersonengineering.com.au or www.askLynda.com.au or alternatively just member message her sweet Purple Husband Al.
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Follow Up By: Glenn (VIC) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 19:30
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 19:30
Hi Bonz,
I tried www.askLynda.com.au, and it came up as an adult site relating to leather goods and latex. Are you sure that is the right site address?
Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 19:34
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 19:34
geez...I thought I'd removed that page Glenn.. :)
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 19:36
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 19:36
bonz..that's www.griersonengineering.com ahahhahaha
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 22:47
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 22:47
yer I added the .au and it didnt look right
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Reply By: slydog - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 20:28
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 20:28
best economy for my cruiser is 7.2km per litre with the worst being 5.3km per litre with that second figure with the canopy on going across the nullabor @120km/hr so 10.7km per litre is sounding pretty good,
as for modifying my existing vehicle not interested as I have had experience with that sort of thing before,
and as for the bloke who wants to buy my ute well you well have to tell me how much it is worth
2001 diesal 145000km
snorkal
dual batterys
overhead console
lightforce spottys
uhf radio plus cb
steel bullbar and sidebars
aluminium
water tank
longrange tanks plus extra 220 litre tank
canvas canopy
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Reply By: time waster - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 21:12
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 21:12
i have the sr d/cab td auto with factory ball bar warn 9 winch d/bat and a full roof rack on the canopy and i get 9.5 km per litre i had to lift the front as it droped 40mm from the weight now its sits 30mm above srandard slightly lower than the front i went the sr as it has most of the usefull options of the sr5 anyway
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 21:24
Monday, Jul 04, 2005 at 21:24
How did you lift the front time waster? Sounds like you effectively raised it by 70mm. Have you / will you do anything with the back? I'll need to lift both. Will have a similar fron set up to you, but also a canopy, drawer unit 20 ltr water can and fridge in the back all the time, plus load for trips.
What about the factory bull bar? From what I've seen, they do nothing for approach angle, but at least they are available. The only other one available is a budget bar from TJM, but I don't think it will go on an SR5 because of the wheel flares. I has waitling for the ARB bar, but I'm running out of patience.
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Reply By: muzzgit (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 05, 2005 at 00:18
Tuesday, Jul 05, 2005 at 00:18
If Nissan put a 5 speed auto in the Navara, they would sell bucket loads of 'em.
That's the reason I almost bought one, instead of actually buying one !!
The V6 hilux isn't that bad on fuel if you drive like grandma. And I recon it would be the ducks nuts in sand.
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Reply By: time waster - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2005 at 20:29
Wednesday, Jul 06, 2005 at 20:29
i lifted the front with h/d coils from king springs at $170 for the pair the front still sits lower than the rear so i have left the rear at the moment we tryed it out the last long wend fully loaded off road ct 150lt fuel tank in the ute engel babybleep40lt of water and it sat very well and drove just as good if anything it drives better with the front springs in.
the factory s/bar is a fair lump but for the price and to change it to the sr5 is only a matter of changing the plastic side bits were as the arb bar you had to chose the sr or sr5 bar now that the front sits 30mm higher the approch angle is a lot better
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