My GPS is lost
Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 13:21
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greydemon
Hi everyone,
I have been dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th Century (will get to the 21st later) and have purchased a GPS unit. I have started with a second hand basic model to see how I go. It is a Garmin Etrex. Unfortunately it is lost and doesn't know where it is. Or even when it is for that matter. It came, without batteries, from NSW and is unhappy here in
Perth where it can't see the Opera House. It's time is haywire, and it's date it about three weeks late. It refuses to autolocate.
I think I need to do the factory reset, I have followed the procedure I have found elsewhere to get to the 'secret screen' and then have held "up"+""enter"+"page" +"on/off" but it does nothing. I believe that some later models have had the 'reset' changed or disabled. I have contacted the Garmin help desk but they are talking about 7 days before they will get around to replying.
So, in the meantime, can anyone help?
Thanks
Greydemon
( getting greyer and more demonic by the minute)
Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 15:29
Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 15:29
Has it been lying around with flat batteries???
If so the memory battery has gone flat on circuit board and may recharge by fitting new batteries and leaving it for a few days switched off, or they may not recharge which means it will have to be replaced. Garmin may say that this cannot be done but there are teks around who can. NEVER leave it unused without good batteries in it as it relies on them to recharge memory batt.
We learnt this the hard way with a hard wired Garmin 12 xl unit, in our fire truck, which had batt. removed as it was hard wired, but when in less than 2 years it stopped working, Garmin said it was buggered and we had to ditch it, $650???
We later learned that some teks can open them and repair them, but there isnt any warning in garmin handbook!
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 16:18
Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 16:18
Thanks Steve, useful tip. I suspect that I would have removed the batteries for storage to avoid battery leakage so I'm glad that you have put me right and saved heartache down the track.
Nick
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Follow Up By: drogger - Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 16:53
Tuesday, Jul 12, 2005 at 16:53
Hi Pesty and Greydemon
The Etrex and other newer models of Garmin GPS's works differently to the 12X series of GPS's. They do not have a memory battery to keep charged up - and therefore don't suffer from that particular fault.
I know the problem you are talking about. We've got 6 12XL's at work and it is a real pain when the memory batteries won't hold charge. But newer model GPS's have some other arrangement to achive the same function.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt Mu (Perth-WA) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:04
Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:04
Drogger, the day my Garmin 12XL started flashing up mem battery low, I took it into Garmin (GME) in
Sydney and they just handed me a new one over the counter!
That is a fault with the lithium mem battery and the only fix is replacement!
You can get the warning if you set has been sitting for AGES with no or flat batteries in it, but if it hasnt and has the fault...its replacement!
Matt.
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Follow Up By: drogger - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:03
Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:03
I know all that - but I didn't pose the question.
As I said - it is problem unique to 12XL's. I doesn't happen on newer GPSs as they are built differently.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:51
Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:51
yeah those 12xl's that died before there time had a bad batch of batteries installed. It's a pretty old model now so I'd expect all the faulty batteries to have failed long ago.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt Mu (Perth-WA) - Thursday, Jul 14, 2005 at 18:43
Thursday, Jul 14, 2005 at 18:43
Drogger, no worries mate, you didnt pose the origional question but you did state "We've got 6 12XL's at work and it is a real pain when the memory batteries won't hold charge."
I wrongly assumed that you didnt realise that there is no need for it to be a pain in the ass...since its a once off fix!
Why would you put up with it if you know GME will replace the entire unit, no-question-asked!
Again my apologies for not knowing what you were thinking!
Matt.
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Follow Up By: drogger - Thursday, Jul 14, 2005 at 19:34
Thursday, Jul 14, 2005 at 19:34
Actually - We did get them replaced. Right now we are trying to get approval to replace them all with 60CS's. Our boss has so far conceded to getting two of them. And a couple of us use personal GPS's anyway.
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Reply By: Niko - Friday, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:19
Friday, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:19
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Etrex model, it has proven to be a very reliable little bloke and for a cheap unit of around $220 these days you can't complain. Ok it doesn't have mapping capability but it wasn't designed for that. If anyone was going to upgrade from and Etrex to another GPS, it wouldn't be because the Etrex is not up to current standards, it would be because they want a mapping unit or one with Marine features in it. The Etrex in fact is pretty much THE standard and everything else just builds from that.
In the case of the Etrex spending 15 minutes to re-orientate itself,
well, that's almost normal (shouldn't be any more than a few minutes) but it may also be pertinent to ensure WAAS is disabled because that can cause the Garmin to appear not working properely. WAAS is only relevant to North America. Resetting any GPS unit may switch WAAS on so watch out for that. All GPS are or should have WAAS off by default. The only time I have ever come across an Etrex with similar problems is one thats been started inside a building or travelled some several hundred km before being switched on again or had WAAS on.
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