Parallel batteries
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 00:27
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Luc
Hi all,
Advise required on to fuse or circuit brake... I'm currently running a redarc isolator
in my holden frontera with a trojan 100amp/h battery in the engine bay. This
has been working
well for the past year, at maximum charge it's achieving 12.8v.
I'm wanting to connect a same battery to my c/trailer and run it in parallel with my secondary bat. Will run 6b&s (13.52mm2)to the trailer with a 50amp anderson plug. My question is, should I fit a fuse or circuit braker and especially what
amperage should they be? Please keep in mind that the trailer battery may be at 10 to 11v when connected to the car aux bat.
Cheers.
Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:31
Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:31
The function of a fuse or circuit breaker in this instance is to protect the cable against excess current in the event of a short circuit to earth.
The rating should thus be of the weakest link in that cable (in terms of current carrying capacity). 6 B&S can safely carry about 80 amps, so here the weak link is the 50-amp rated connector.
The fuse or circuit breaker should thus rated at about 50 amps and located as close as feasible to the battery.
Regarding fuses versus circuit breakers: historical US insurance records show that the former can be a fire
hazard - and that circuit breakers are safer. This may have changed however since the widespread adoption of blade type fuses.
Fuses and cheap circuit breakers are temperature sensitive. They need locating in as cool a place as feasible (certainly not over an exhaust pipe etc). My own choice is a really good marine-type circuit breaker (Electric Boat Parts in
Sydney is a good source). A good one will set you back about $50. Avoid the $15 cheapies - they work but are very temperature dependent.
Trust this helps
Collyn Rivers
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 15:31
Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 15:31
Collyn,
I've always preferred to use a fusible link at each battery, believing that voltage drop across the link to be minimal, and that its a very reliable connection (won't corrode like a fuseholder).
What are your thoughts?
Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 22:20
Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 22:20
(QUOTE)Will run 6b&s (13.52mm2) to the trailer with a 50amp anderson plug.
Please keep in mind that the trailer BATTERY may be at 10 to 11v when connected to the car aux bat.(end quote)
IMO the 6 B&S lead is possibly too thin, remembering you are going back to the CT and you will be getting some voltage drop at the rear battery, I use 2 B&S cable with nil voltage drop back to my two 80A/h DC batteries.
Why would your CT battery be 10v to11v..?
Remember at 10 volt your battery is basically flat and soon will be on its way to the big battery graveyard. It would be advisable to use an electronic disconnection switch so the battery is automatically disconnected from the fridge etc, to save your batteries life, nothing worse than having a dead battery in the bush.
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 10:32
Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 10:32
Luc
Bear in mind there will be zero voltage drop until you apply a load.
The purpose of the C/B is to protect the cable against overloading. The cable you are using will handle a continuous 70-80 amps and 150 plus amps on a cycling basis (if used for a starter motor cable).
If the trailer battery is low there is a real possibility of the alternator pumping
well over 30 amps for a few minutes.
There is no point in using a C/B that is only just big enough to handle the proposed load where you have such a big cable safety margin anyway.
Go for the 40 amp unit - and if hard to find, pick a 50 amp unit. Do however buy a really good one (about $50). The cheap ones are simply too temperature dependent and may drop out at lower current.
Trust this helps
Collyn Rivers
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