pirelli tyres

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 19:53
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Hi all
Can anyone tell me what the pirelli scorpion st tyres are like??
They will be going on a 2001 diesel prado 265x70x16
I do a small amount of off raod and alittle beach driving..will they wear ok??

my old tyres Bridgestone dueler H/T 689 only made 30,000 klms
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Reply By: uncle - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 20:17

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 20:17
Hi there Jonboy,I have a friend with a 2year old criuser and he's just swapped back to Bridgestone's as the Pirelli's were giving him too many flat tyres.On one outing with him 12 months ago we had 2 flats in an hour,and we were only just west of Eden on granite and some fine shaled roads.Not even doing any serious 4wding!No doubt someone esle will have a different opinion,but thats just our experience,cherrs.
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Reply By: stevesub - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 21:17

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 21:17
We used Pirelli tyres on pour Freelander when we were using it for offraoding in NZ.

My opinion of the Pirelli tyres that we had - they are crap.

Road holding ion and off road in mud, etc, good

Road noise - diabolical.

Tyre wear, well we never wore any out, they were all damaged before they could wear our, they are so fragile when compared with other tyres that we have used for off roading.

We are now using Bridgestones on the Freelander (and replaced the Freelander with a Troopy for off road work).

We have Desert Duellers on the Troopy and only get around 30,000km so we will be looking for something different soon - probably BFG's or Coopers, definetly NOT Pirellis.

Stevesub

2001 V6 Freelander - best of British un-reliablity
2000 Troopy pop-top camper - best truck we have ever had, brillant
1995 Terano II - our NZ 4WD

Going gery nomads, home for a few weeks. Left home 2 years ago for 6 weeks, due back next year - sometime, maybe.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 13:08

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 13:08
" Left home 2 years ago for 6 weeks, due back next year - sometime, maybe. "

I'm not jealous...I'm not jealous...I'm not jealous...YOU SODS !

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Reply By: Steerpike - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 21:58

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 21:58
jonboy, I am running Pirelli Scorpion S/T's, 265x70x16 on my 98 petrol Prado. Have had them on for about 2 years. We are mainly bitumen drivers (towing a van), with the annual one week trip to Fraser Is each Easter. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on their rough road fragility. However, we are very happy with them for our use. They replaced the original Dunlop Grand Treks, and are MUCH better (although the Grand Treks were the smaller size- 215's).
They are very good on wet and dry bitumen. They are wearing slightly unevenly (Prados seem to do this to all tyres), and I don't expect to get enormous mileage out of them. I'd guess perhaps 50-60,000km before one unevenly worn side is illegal.
On sand, they are great.
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Follow Up By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 01:01

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 01:01
Dou you ever rotate your tyres to spread the wear??? I do it every 5,000km and have no problems at all.

Muddy
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Reply By: Casnat - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 23:35

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 23:35
Hi jonboy,

I had 4 on my Patrol and still have 2. Never had a puncture and the wear seemed very reasonable.

I had to replace 2 because I gave the sidewall in one an almighty knock against a stump (have to take the blame for that one) and noticed weeks later a bit of a bubble. You can't just replace one so the other (still OK) one is now my spare casing on extended trips. I now have a second spare on a rim plus another spare casing.

I know I gave it a decent whack so can't really blame the tyre. A lesser tyre may well have blown at the time, who knows. Had done about 20,000 and the 2 still on the truck have done about another 5,000 since. Probably about 50% worn now so reasonably happy with the wear.

I would estimate about 70% highway driving and 30% offroad (predominantly sand).

Even though I had to replace one (read two), for the price I am not unhappy with their performance.

Cheers
Trevor
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 06:13

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 06:13
I had them on the Lexus at one stage. They didn't last long - maybe 50,000. I'd never get them again. The side walls looked wavy, as if the manufacturing process was flawed. The best tyres I have ever had for Hwy are the Michelins on the Discovery. Best overall are the current BFG ATs on the Lexus.
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Reply By: Farside - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 08:39

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 08:39
Jonboy

I had a set of Scorpion AT on my ex-Prado before I brought a set of Coopers AT. On road they were very far ahead of the Coopers apart from the slight road noise (one of the best wet weather tryes I have ever had). Off-road they were quite good, did not seem to clog up with mud all that much. On the beach they were did not float as well as the Coopers and did not provide as much traction. They lasted 60 000kms with still about 3-4mm tread left on them. I could not get a replacement set as Pirrelli seemed to have stopped making the size which I wanted (265x75x16).

I now have a Patrol with Bridgestones, hopefully I will get more than 30,000km.

Cheers

Angus
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Reply By: crfan - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 11:07

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 11:07
I had them on a 80 series cruiser got 30 000kms out of them rotated every 5000km
and ran high pressure in them and they were bald have BF goodridge's on now have done 35 000km and are about half worn would never put scorpion's on again
The tire guy told me they would last at least 50 000km not even close.
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Reply By: Capt. Wrongway - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 16:34

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 16:34
G'Day jonboy,
I ca'rnt advise on the Pirelli's but I iwas interested in your comment on the Bridgestones, as I was thinking about changing to them, but maybe not.
I have a 120 Prado fitted with Grandtreks. I know there is a lot of negitive comments on them for off road use, but for my use, on-road towing a van and occasional dirt & sand tracks, I'm getting great milage out of them. I've currently done 75,000kms on them ( rotated every 10,000 ) and look like getting another 10-15,000 out of them. I think I'll be putting them back on again.
Regards,
Barry.
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Reply By: willys - Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 17:17

Friday, Jul 29, 2005 at 17:17
Had them on an xj jeep cherokee did 84,000 km on them including crossing the simpson and many outback trips, never rotated them and never had a flat. Sold the jeep or I would put them on again.
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