Removing 3rd Row seats.
Submitted: Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 13:18
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Member -Dodger
Hi all,
This is a contentious issue but apparently the removal of the third row seats for those that are normally bolted in will make the vehicle unroadworthy in some states.
In NSW you may only have these seats removed for 2 weeks then they must be reinstalled however if you rmove them for good then the vehicle needs to be blue slipped and the registration recorded accordingly.
This is because the compliance plate reads seven seats.
Although you would be very unlucky to be pinged, if you found a zealot cop then youre gone.
Reply By: Exploder - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 14:21
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 14:21
Even know most 3rd row seats are only rated for 2, 50kg passengers and if you had 2 full-sized adults seated in them you could be fined for it.
Oh
well mine are in the back shed and that is they will stay unless I have 7 passenger’s 2 of which weigh 50kg then I might put them back in.
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Reply By: Terryfirma - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:01
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:01
This issue has been going on for quite some time.It appears QLD and NSW police like to enforce this law. As far as SA & Vic are concerned it appears the seats can be removed as long as the mounting brackets (ie the captive nuts etc in the floor or Wheel arch are not removed.)
If you can prove the seats can be placed back in the vehicle, it is classed as a temporary removal. If they cannot be returned to the vehicle then it becomes a contentious issue. Check out this site
http://www.fwdvictoria.org.au/seating.htm
Its some info I received in my hunt to resolve this issue.
Regards
Terry
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 18:32
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 18:32
Yes I went down that road with Transport SA and they confirmed that as long as the seats are removed temporarily then there is not an issue. What contitutes temporary?....lol... the voice on the other side just laughed.
The silly thing is that the seats are adjustable so that you can load things in the wagon.
Look at the new Nissan Pathfinder ad where multiple use of the seats is advocated
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Follow Up By: Terryfirma - Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 22:54
Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 22:54
Check out this sitext
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:52
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:52
Thanks Terry.........I have saved it to file just in case someone gets snarky one day.
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Follow Up By: Terryfirma - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:52
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:52
OOPS!! Sorry Willem
Didn't mean to send that file to you. When I did the original post (30/7/2005) I tried to send a link but could not work it out. Last night after searching the achives I found some very helpful information, from people in the know, so I thought I would go back and see if it worked. AND Yes it does obviously as you received it.(Its amazing what you learn once you read the instructions) I now know how to do it for future reference.
Once again sorry , but at least you have a copy
Regards
Terry
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Reply By: Member Eric - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:03
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:03
Problem solved .
If you got pulled over , tell them you took them out yesterday lol . I have 1 week and 6 days to go lol
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Reply By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:17
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:17
Surely they have more importatnt road safety issues to be working on!
What could possibly be the point of this rule?????
Has the world finally gone completely nuts?????
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Reply By: Charlie - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:27
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 16:27
Can't say I've ever had a problem in twenty five years of driving in NSW with the rear
seat removed.
Charlie
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Reply By: Diamond (Vic) - Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 18:28
Saturday, Jul 30, 2005 at 18:28
i remember a few years ago when i got my roadworthy license(vic)we were told all seats except for the drivers
seat could be removed ans still be roadworthy.
but of course there had to be nothing that could cause injury(thinks like
seat mounting brackets ect).
cheers
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Reply By: johnsy1 - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:21
Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:21
Has anyone challenged this in court as from my point of view it doesnt change the adrs,safety nothing.Don't see the point of the excercise at all.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 09:17
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 09:17
Your compliance plate on the vehicle tells you how many seats are fitted. If the seats are removed , it no longer is in accordance with the compliance plate. Simple.
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Follow Up By: johnsy1 - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 13:42
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 13:42
OK but I would ague the toss that the mounts belts etc are still in situ so nothings changed to the vehicle so is still the same vehicle other wise putting mags , bullbars,towbars,would be outside your c/plate.
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Reply By: Charlie - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:27
Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:27
Adding or removing the rear
seat can change your classification as a comercial or passenger vehicle which flows on to you rego or insurance prenium so I guess this might be the issue.
Charlie
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:57
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:57
My '95 Patrol is a TD42 "DX"..... which, being the base model (vinyl flooring, etc) doesn't come with a 3rd row.
Yay!!!!!!! I feel safe sticking the drawers in....
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