Maree - CooberPedy

Submitted: Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 20:49
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I am travelling clockwise in Aug-Sept Bris - Bris via Center.

I read the trek notes - very he;pful - just wanted some opinions...(feel sure I'll get 'em).

So if I get into the Flinders how long would it take me to get to CooberPedy from Leigh Creek via Oodndatta Track- William Creek track.
What is your opinion of a XTRAIL doing it?

Magoo
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Reply By: stevesub - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 20:57

Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 20:57
Did Oodnatta Track earlier in the year in the Troopy. Did 400km per day with no problems but 200 to 300km would give you more time.

Remember to take 2 spare tyres, 2 jacks, heaps of water, etc. You cannot drink the ater at Willam Creek - too salty but the beer is good. A CB (in car) is a must an there are repeaters over a good part of the track for emergency - look for the signs on the track letting you know the emergency channels. Cannot remeber the distance between fuel stops as we have long range tanks and did not need to re-fuel while on the track.

The X-Trail should have no problems other than maybe falling to bits on the rough roads. When we did the track, you could have driven a car over it if you were mad enough and careful.

Stevesub
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Follow Up By: MrMagoo - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 21:01

Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 21:01
Stevesub,
thanks. Was thinking of a CB - can you make any cb model suggestions? I wnat to stay alive not become a CG enthusiast. Can I hire them? What can I expect to pay?
Magoo (good handle for getting lost hahaha) - hope not
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 21:36

Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 21:36
I recently travelled the oodna track from dalhousie to william Creek, then headed to Woomera. An Xtrail would have had no problems at all. a week earlier the road as closed and an Xtrail would have struggled to get anywhere before the graders moved in I would guess. Conditions change pretty quickly. The road is used by a lot of 2wd vehicles a lot of the time. Just check before you set of
Phone the Pink Roadhouse for latest conditions 1800802074
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Reply By: Casnat - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 22:31

Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 22:31
Conditions change all the time.

On 1 trip I have taken a VT Calais up the Borefield Rd then the Oodnadatta track as far as Coward Springs. We only turned back due to time constraints. I have no doubt we could have gone on to William Creek and even beyond with the Calais if we had had time.

That trip we took the Calais into Arkarroola and then on the way back tried to get it into Chambers Gorge. The rocks and creek crossings (dry) beat us but I have been back since in the Patrol and I reckon the Calais made it 90% of the way....just taking a slow and careful line. The time I did go back with the Patrol we saw a Japanese couple right in the guts of Chambers Gorge with an old Nissan Crown. The woman was walking in front moving rocks etc out of the way. We stopped to help and turned out they were lost and had been trying to get out but must have kept going deeper by mistake. Hopefully we pointed them in the right direction!

To show the difference that weather can make, on another trip coming back with a hired Land Cruiser we only just made it into William Creek from Coober Pedy before the roads were closed and then had lots of "fun" on the road South the next day. Even the roads into Parachilna Gorge in the Flinders were closed that time.

I guess what I am saying is sometimes your x-trail will have no problems but other times even big brother will have trouble.

Regards
Trevor

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Follow Up By: MrMagoo - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 22:37

Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 22:37
Thanks,
Will watch the weather. Probably dry as in Sept although I am told not to trust it too much when camping i.e. choose some high ground.
:-)
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Reply By: MrMagoo - Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 22:40

Sunday, Jul 31, 2005 at 22:40
Do I really need a UHF radio out there?
What do they cost?
Is it OK to get 2nd hand you think?
If 2nd Hand whet should I look for?
true Magoo
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 04:34

Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 04:34
Magoo

You don't NEED communications out there, but you need common sense.

Do you have it?

UHF Radios are an advantage when off the beaten track or along outback roads. It could save your life or it could be a white elephant stuck in your car.

Seeing as you are on the internet do a Google and find a UHF Radio. New or second hand, if it works, it works...and don't forget to buy an aerial for it
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Follow Up By: MrMagoo - Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 00:26

Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 00:26
Thanks- looking into UHF 2nd Hand.
Common sense intact but some of the best are still beaten by the conditions so I think the debate is lost on the lost - I will get one.
Getting the aerial comes with the common sense!
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:46

Monday, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:46
Yep - two spare wheels - plenty of water - reliable communications of some sort - reduce tyre pressures - DRIVE CONSERVATIVELY (speed is a big factor in tyre failure) - have a great time ! PS: The roads are 'good' through that region (in outback terms that is) - but some of the stonier sections can be a bugger on tyres.
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Follow Up By: MrMagoo - Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 00:30

Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 00:30
I have already got the roof cage & extra spare and 25Ltr drum water - emergency 10L feultank - thinking of doubling that though.
- but - I only have HT bridgestones (38K) - do you think I should get something hardier - or just drive to suit would be a good rule.
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 09:02

Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 09:02
I have only ever used light truck tyres for my trips up there - most people do that - I don't know your tyres - if they are passenger grade, they are susceptible to the stonier sections - IF you drive carefully and watch for those troublesome sharp stones you might be ok - IF you intend to do more of this, would pay to swap to tough tyres for peace of mind, in my view. As others might have said, roof load is an issue - pays to have light gear only up there.
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 11:08

Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 11:08
Meant to say - as others have said - the X-Trail would be fine out there under 'normal conditions' - if it rains steadily (it can, anytime) the roads get very sloshy and then you (and everyone else) would have to saty put.
I think comms are a must, because even though the roads are popular, if it rains, you won't see anyone, and you could be in between distant towns. Quality UHF that can access a repeater is the minimum in my view - as mentioned above, ring Adam or Linnie at the Pink Roadhouse, Odnadatta for info on roads in that region - you can get a UHF repeater list for SA on this site.
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Reply By: MrMagoo - Saturday, Aug 06, 2005 at 23:21

Saturday, Aug 06, 2005 at 23:21
ALl,

Ok - got the UHF - picked up a uniden 2nd hand $150
do I need a license for it?
Is the a web site to explain CB for dummies?
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Follow Up By: MrMagoo - Saturday, Aug 06, 2005 at 23:36

Saturday, Aug 06, 2005 at 23:36
wait up -

there is a nice page of info via this site - and it recommends a guide for newbies. ta.

http://www.exploroz.com/InfoPages/TP_OutbackComms.asp#UHF%20477MHz%20CB%20Radio:
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