Nissan Patrol GU 3 Ltr TD Rebuild ??????
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 18:55
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PeterVan
I have noticed on this
forum alot of you have had the motor rebuilt on your 2000 Nissan Patrols and was hoping to get some feedback.
Mine bit the dust at 70.k and they replaced all pistons and engine block
Nissan partially came to the party but what I would like to know is how reliable the rebuilds are as the mechanic commented that he could see no difference in the pistons that Nissan supplied to the old ones.
Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 22:01
Tuesday, Aug 02, 2005 at 22:01
When the 3.0l td's go boom Nissan usually supply a short motor of the the latest 3.0l! They also supply a new wiring loom to accomodat the new motor as there is a couple more sensors.
Leroy
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Reply By: fourstall2000 - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:46
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:46
You will never get Nissan to tell you why the engine failed,except the usual "we increased the oil level in the sump".
I even tried to get them to tell me the cause through the consumer affairs with little success.
From what I information I have dug up it is clear that the problem is not the pistons as such,rather the lubrication to them.
The later engines had a additional oil sensor fitted( below the turbo on the block)
This to me further confirms my theory on the oil supply.
Nissan got caught out badly by using a European designed engine in Australian conditions.
The early failures were on long haul ,high speed applications,something that combined with high temperatures Europe does not have.
Nissans raising of the sump level was an attempt to improve heat removal through an increased mass of lubricant.
Still engines failed and I believe the oil sprays up into the piston area were later also modified.
It would appear now that the problem has been eliminated,given the numbers on the road now and the continuation of this engine in the current models.
But like you having my motor replaced(by nissan)I continue to have doubts about what was actually done to prevent further problems.
Nissan would have been far more honest to tell the whole truth about the early failures rather than try to deny its existance.
Regards
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Follow Up By: RAGS AND DAGS - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:48
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 08:48
I can handle a
suspension failure , I can handle some fitting failures but I would be damned if I would cop an engine failure in this day an age .
NISSAN SHOULD BE ASHAMED !!!
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 09:25
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 09:25
"Nissan got caught out badly by using a European designed engine in Australian conditions.
The early failures were on long haul ,high speed applications,something that combined with high temperatures Europe does not have."
Actually the engines were recalled in Europe, so the problem existed there too. Also after recently travelling to France and Italy with heat in the high 30's and Patrol 3.0Di GR's hammering by at 130KPH on the Autostrada I would debate you on the the latter point.
IMHO just poor QA pure and simple. If anything Nissan must feel the problem is likely to be less severe here for there not to be a recall. Either that or our consumer protection legislation is not percieved as strong.
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Follow Up By: PeterVan - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:00
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:00
Thanks for the info. I was so ticked off when this happened(we were on the way up north for winter when it happened, got stranded in Dunnydo which is colder than where we live)I went out and bought a 1999 Land Cruiser,but I found its a little thirsty so Im tossing up now on what to keep!!! The Nissan and pray I have no more probs or put the cruiser on gas.....any suggestions?????
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Follow Up By: RAGS AND DAGS - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:38
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:38
For peace of mind the Cruiser . Otherwise you will never get rid of that terrible feeling when way of the beaten track that you may be walking some time soon.
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