3 Stage Chargers
Submitted: Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 18:19
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cmilton54
Has anyone used a projecta multi stage 3 channel MCU battery charger. Thinking of one for charging aux battery system in caravan and camper trailer
Charlie
Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 18:30
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 18:30
cmilton54 I have not used them, sorry, but as long as they are a true 3 stage I can't see there being a problem at all. I was actually just about to post a question on 3 stage chargers myself, so I hope you don't mind if I hijack a little here!
I've actually got a standard 8amp charger and can get my hands on a 3 stage solar regulator for next to nothing, what do all the guru's think about me plugging the 8 amp charger into the 3 stage regulator then onto the batteries? Would this be as effective as a normal 3 stage unit?
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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 19:52
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 19:52
Jeff M
Works just fine with most solar regulators as long as the output voltage of the charger is about 14.7 volts or preferably higher and is not capacitive.
I've done a fair bit of work on this one so . Please get back to me re this thread if you need more info.
Collyn Rivers
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:34
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:34
G'day Collyn, thanks for that. Pardon my ignorance but what does capacitive mean? And how would you know the true output voltage of the charger as it only activates when there is a load (ie a battery connected) and then the voltage is changed by the level the battery is charged isn't it?
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Follow Up By: cmilton54 - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:42
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:42
Jeff M
Thanks for your reply
No worries on thread see my follow up to Paul
Cheers
Charlie
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Reply By: Paul - OzRoamer Camper Trailer - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:28
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:28
Charlie
Which model of Projecta are you referring too?
We use them in the
Cape York Trailers and I have found some better suited than others. The smaller charge & maintain units are OK for when you have the system lugged into 240v when not in use but our trailers are out on Hire most of the time to customers who don't have an anderson plug connection to maintain a decent level and so they often come back pretty flat.
I found that the larger 20Amp contin 30Amp max unit to bethe best and have changed all the Hire Fleet CT's tover to this model (I can give you the exact mod number later if you wish).
This larger unit seems to have the grunt to get the battery aroused and up to an acceptable level in a hurry.
Let me know if you need more info.
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Follow Up By: cmilton54 - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:40
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:40
Paul
Thanks for your details. Charger I am looking at is model MC123140 3channel. In my old caravan used a projecta AC600 chage & maintain unit that worked
well but new van is all 12 volt. Intend to have a dual bank of 75 or 90amps to supply van, charges with 50amp anderson plug when travelling. Use charger for when plugged into mains.
Cheers
Charlie
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Follow Up By: Paul - OzRoamer Camper Trailer - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:56
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 21:56
I'll check the model we use in the morning and get back to you.
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Reply By: Paul - OzRoamer Camper Trailer - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 22:00
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 22:00
Charlie,
Found it - this is the unit we use and we have been happy with it.
MC121150
The MC121150 is a heavy duty battery charger that delivers a powerful 3 stage charge, for batteries between 60Ah-300Ah (465-2000CCA). In utilises c’Logix technology to deliver a 3 stage, automatic charge that is faster and more powerful than traditional chargers, while the Recovery Plus feature gives sulphated batteries a high voltage charge to return them back into service.
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 09:53
Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 09:53
Charlie
The Projecta MCU series are good low-priced three-stage chargers.
I would personally have like to seen automatic temperature compensation, but even so thy are one huge advance over the chain store constant voltage chargers that so many people still unfortunately use.
When deciding size, bear in mind that a constant current device such as this will charge very much faster (once passed about 50% charge) than both conventional chargers and alternator charging. Again, above 50% charge a 10-amp three-stage charger will more than outperform most nominally 20-amp units.
Jeff
Sorry - that term slipped past without explanation.
In this case, 'Capacitive' output is where a capacitor (a very short term storage device) is connected across the output of a dc power supply - primarily to make that output closer to true dc.
In practice however, such capacitance MAY cause ongoing cyclic overloading of the input stage of the solar regulator - hence the reservation re this. Very few cchargers are likely to have this, but it is not uncommon for those who know a bit about elecdtronics to add them.
Some such regulators are switchable between 'series switching' and so-called 'pulse width modulation'. If so they can be used in series switched operation' even with capacitive input but at a minor loss of efficiency.
See if you can find a friendly radio amateur to assist - these people know a lot about this sort of stuff. Maybe one reading this thread?
Trust this may help
Collyn Rivers
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 11:16
Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 11:16
Thanks Collyn, I'll have a muck around with it. Sounds like it could be a $$$ effective way to look after my batteries. (we are on a tight budget at the mo!)
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Follow Up By: cmilton54 - Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 15:12
Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 15:12
Collyn
Thanks for you reply
Do you consider just a 3 stage charger with the sulfation boost hooked up to the 2 batteries in parallel or a 3 stage charger 3 channel without sulfation boost hooked up individually to be better.
Cheers
Charlie
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