In Case of an Emergency - ICE

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:04
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I came across this article on a communication b/board.
Thought it might be of interest to others :-

ICE YOUR PHONE

ICE stands for "In Case of Emergency".
If you add an entry in the contacts list in your mobile phone
Under ICE, with the name and phone number of the person that
the emergency services should call on your behalf, you
can save them a lot of time and have your loved ones
contacted quickly.

Paramedics will turn to a victim's mobile phone for
clues to that person's identity. You can make their
job much easier with a simple idea that they are
trying to get everyone to adopt: ICE.
You could have multiple entries ICE1, ICE 2, ICE3 ect
for various family members
It only takes a few moments of your time to do.
Paramedics know what ICE means and they look for it
immediately.
ICE your mobile phone NOW!
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Reply By: Member - Brad G (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:13

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:13
Hi neilvin
I am involved in both Volunteer Marine Rescue and SA Ambulance and we have never heard of or been advised of the ICE listing as an easy means of contacting next of kin. I am interested in learning more could you please post the URL so I can investigate further.
Cheers Brad
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:15

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:15
Michelle and I received this from Telstra to our mobile phones on SMS with some contact details of:

Go to Telstra.com - Latest News for more info.
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Reply By: neilvin - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:31

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:31
Hi Brad
The URL is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/codan_outback_radio/
and do a search for "ice".
I am in the CFA and I haven't heard of it yet, but will be following it up.
Regards
Neil
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:46

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 17:46
It originated in the UK, but the internet being what it is, people have forwarded it all over the place. Sort of spreading through word-of-mouth.

Silly me, but I would have thought a phone entry labelled "Emergency" would make more sense!
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 18:12

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 18:12
I saw it now being advertised on Channel 7 too.
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 18:47

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 18:47
Why wouldn't the ambos just open your wallet and get your address off the drivers liocence?

Or if they only have the moibile, try "Home"?

Stuffed if I'd look for entries under ICE.

Sounds like another internet furphy

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Follow Up By: Banjo - Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:44

Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:44
They could probably find your address or home number the way you describe.
What if however if your whole family, whether 2 or more, are in the accident and can't communicate?
The idea is to have a contact number for someone who is close but not likely to be with you in the worst case and also can assist with personal details.
Banjo WA
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 13:29

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 13:29
"Why wouldn't the ambos just open your wallet and get your address off the drivers liocence? "

So I'm in a car accident at work, let's say at 10am in the morning, I myself am unconsious or in a state where I am unable to communicate. (I had a motor cycle accident a few years ago where I lost all my memory for 12 hours, it does happen!).

What would I prefer....
1. Paramedics/Police quietly wait for my wife to arrive home from work and then give her a call during dinner?

2. Quickly and easily find her number in my phone under "ICE" and let her know what's happened!

I put ICE in my phone several weeks ago when I first heard about it, and BTW it was never a hoax, I also heard the interview with the paramedic in the UK who came up with it on the ABC.
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Reply By: Bitsumishin - Mike (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 19:49

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 19:49
Just wait for the cries of privacy invasion if an emergency officer went through your phone looking for ICE
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 20:22

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 20:22
Amnother case of people recomending how you run your life, like wipe of 5, smoking kills (oh doooh) etc etc
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Reply By: Dion - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 20:36

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 20:36
All of these acronyms (ICE, Home, Emergency) are a fat lot of good to the emergency services if the keypad is locked, or phone book is password protected.

Cheers,

Dion.
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Reply By: Jayk - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 20:57

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 20:57
This had the whiff of an urban myth about it but no so according to Snopes where there is an interesting read on the background to ICE ...

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Why? ... Why not?

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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - David - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 21:05

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 21:05
Interesting issue as I mentioned earlier Telstra has sent this out to all account holders via SMS in recent days and here is link to the article on telstra.com.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 21:10

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 21:10
Posted on here awhile ago Post No 24869.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:11

Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:11
Yes, and people seemed to like the idea then...! lol
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:32

Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:32
Not a perfect system, but would not do any harm to do it anyway.
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Reply By: Member - Jay Gee (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 22:01

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2005 at 22:01
This is interesting this one. It actually started out as just another hoax. In fact it was officially declared as a hoax originally.

But people around the world started to think it was a good idea, and have started recommending it, even some organisations (as you can see from the Telstra recommendation).

But - it has not been universally adopted - and many rescue/emergency agencies have not heard of it or have it in their procedures.

This is because many people have been stung before by internet hoaxes and have dismissed this as "just another internet hoax. As a result - this idea is becoming vctim of "the boy who cried wolf" event.

So don't feel completely safe in the belief that every paramedic, hospital, doctor, nurse, poliveman or fireman is going to automatically check your phone for "ICE" entries. And that is the damage that hs been caused by previous internet hoaxes - and like the story of the boy who cried wolf - the person who is your potential rescuer might not bother to check just when you really need it.

So - it may sound like a good idea - but don't bet your life on it.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:10

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:10
It didn't start as a hoax - it started as a result of a paramedic in the East Anglian Ambulance Service thinking it was a good idea in the UK. Someone started a rumour after it got started claiming it was a new virus for mobile phones.

As an ambo I've never seen a need for it. Contacting Next of Kin is more of a police thing in Vic.

Can't say I'll be doing it to my phone.

Who doesn't have home mum dad etc on their phone??

Dave
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Reply By: Member - RockyOne - Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 08:11

Wednesday, Aug 10, 2005 at 08:11
Brilliant idea..No doubt,will be universaly adoptedd..I am ICE-ing my mobile this am...Thanks for info..
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Reply By: flappa - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 13:37

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 13:37
Dont like it , dont do it , who gives a crap.

Quite a few people think its a good idea , including myself.
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Reply By: Russ - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 21:35

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 21:35
Think about it before you do it.

A mother died in SA from hearing about the death of her daughter in a VA.

Emergency services in SA do not support this initiative.

Regards

RB
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:51

Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:51
WTF!!?? Would it have made a difference weather she found out when it happened or 8 hours later??
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Reply By: Russ - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 21:35

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 21:35
Think about it before you do it.

A mother died in SA from hearing about the death of her daughter, by phone,in a VA.

Emergency services in SA do not support this initiative.

Regards

RB
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