Another wheel on rear door

I very much doubt it would handle it.

An example is the Patrols. , the existing wheel can occassionally cause problems , 33's will fit , but have been known to cause problems , and the 35's have caused heaps of problems.

Thats just from going up in size , adding maybe 10kg all up extra.

I doubt a another wheel and tyre weighing , what ? 40kg ? would do the door anygood at all.

Go To your local ARB outlet who supply and fit the necessary hardware.
Cheers P Guy.

Mozza

I reckon the forces would be too great. The bracket is like a lever. If you go out twice as far you'll be doubling the forces. So the two wheels will exert forces on the bracket and the rear door equvelent to three times the weight of the original.

It might be ok on the blacktop but i don't think it'll hold when off road.

R.

Most models that carry the wheel on the rear door have a variant that wears steel rims. These are twice as heavy as the alloys so the weight should be OK.
Have seen it done on Pajeros but haven't done it myself.
The thing to watch is, as Robak says, the extra weight is further back and therfore exerts a lever action on the door which, over time, could destroy the door.
The bracket would probably be strong enough but is the door?

Seriously..wheel mounts break off with one wheel let alone two!

To strengthen the door would add weight and MIGHT stop the bracket destroying the door but you cant strengthen the mounting point of the hinges at the rear of the body!

You WILL end up with a very expensive problem to fix if you get a bracket on the door that will hold two wheels.

There is no cheap way of doing this (why do you think Kaymar exists with their pricing), Im sure the cost of rebuilding you rear end will be more than getting a rear bar and carrier fabricated!!

Matt.

I don't think the extra weight and 'leverage' would make the steering light as someone suggested, but the extra weight further back would add significantly to the overall load up back with all your gear as well. Have your thought about just taking an extra tyre without the rim and a bead breaker ? This saves weight and gives you a bit more flexibility to repair as well as change tyres.

Mozza

"the obvious query is the load rating of the existing bracket, and whether it has the capacity to handle 'another' tyre? "

The bracket probably yes.
The door, the hinges probably not.
Legal, more than likely not, obscured vision from angles to tail lights etc.
Would I do it--------------- Nup.
Dual carrier or roof rack!

Cheers

Definately not the way to go about it. I inquired about having my bracket modified (Adding an alluminium plate to my spare wheel carrier) so i could mount a 15 HP outboard motor to it when doing weekend fishing trips and was talked out of it. Problem is, Where the bracket mounts inside the door, it is still only supported by sheet metal. Eventually with corrigations, it would crack and spread until something let go.
The idea has been on my mind for awhile but the weight would eventually cause some expensive repairs.

Why not just add a foof rack (basket) and you can throw another two spares on top fairly simple and wont cost the earth, have done that to my hilux now I have 3 spares when i"m travelling just a thought.Have a great day Steve M

you could just ratchet strap a carcass to a tyre on an alloy rim on the back, without to much worry, if you really need that 6th spare.

Hi Mozza,

I know this response is a bit late but I just returned from a week away and am reviewing posts since I left.

Much of the talk has been on the strength of the brackets but I suggest you also need to consider the door hinges also.

I did a trip recently up Googs and around the top of Lake Torrens with my GU and another vehicle, a GQ, that had a second casing strapped to the spare on the rear door (I had my spare casing on the roof). Whilst only a casing, the weight was enough that to open the door you had to lift it a little to get the lock to release.

This is just an observation and many people talk about carrying a spare casing there with not many reports of problems. It may have just been some problem for my mates vehicle but worth taking into consideration.

The other thing for me is that the spot on the back of the spare on my vehicle is taken by the rubbish bag.

Trevor