towing 4wd camper trailer

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:23
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Hi,

We have recently purchased a Campomatic 4wd camper. The camper sits very high due to designed for offraod. We plan on towing it behind a Nissan Pathfinder. We hooked the camper up behind the pathfinder empty and we still have the camper sitting on a downward angle towards the tow bar. We have been advised that level towing is a must for safety. The tow bar is designed to carry the weight of the camper trailer. What suggestions does anyone have for us to achieve level towing with a minimum of cost. Also does anyone have suugestions of desitnations on NSW central or north coast in Sept. We are travelling with 2 kids 5 and 7 and want to be able to swim and fish. anyones feedbakc would be great.
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:34

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:34
If you have a Hayman-Reece towbar you can get various adaptors that would suit the level of your trailer, and can be adjusted to any level.
Can't help much with suitable place on the East coast
Cheers
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Reply By: Unbreakable - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:38

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:38
You would have to look at resetting the camper spring height.
Best to load it with all your stuff first,then let the likes of Pedders etc.... look at it & determine the height it hase to come down to.Keep in mind vehicle occupants will add to this equasion....
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:41

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:41
G'day Shelley,
If you have a Hayman-Reece type of tow bar (ie: a box-section type) on your Pathy, you should be able to buy a higher "gooseneck" which will raise the height at which the coupling sits above the ground. However, this can sometimes add complications with the opening of the rear door/s on the vehicle, so check it first.

Only other option/s would be to increase the height of the Pathy (suspension lift) or reduce the height of the trailer by changing to lower springs etc......neither of these last 2 options would be practical.

I'm not all that sure that it is 'really' unsafe to have the trailer nose pointing downwards a small amount.....can't see what harm it could do; but it would certainly 'look' better and more professional if it all sat nice and level.

Can't help you with good destinations in NSW, but why not come to SA for a week or 2??? LOLOL

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:49

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:49
I agree with Mr Roachie - can't see that it would be unsafe to have the nose pointing down. I would just ignore it - cheapest option!

Andrew
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:44

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 17:44
Simple, turn the gooseneck up the other way, if you have already done that, buy one with bigger offset, around $70.00.

DON'T GET THE TRAILERS SPRINGS RESET!
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Reply By: Willb - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 18:07

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 18:07
I'm with you Shaker, turn the goose neck "upside down" and refit the tow ball, I have towed several different campers and trailers and have allways used the same neck and ball.
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Reply By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 18:52

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 18:52
Shelly,

The pathfiders do sit fairly low, if you have h/reese type tow hitch (as said above) turn upside down. If you do not have h/reese tow hitch speak to tow bar maker in your area as you can get big riser towbars up to 3" lift as I did with my old pathy. If you have one of the other types of towbars that are attached to main frame of the towbar by 2 large bolts let me know as I think I still have the 3" riser section in the shed. If it suits I'm sure we can come to some arrangements for the handover of such an item. These may interfere with the tailgate of the pathy as Roachie said.
I think mine did off memory.
There is ways around it if you want.
What about Sandon River out from Grafton region for good camping.

Regards Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Shelley - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:13

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:13
Thanks,

We will let you know, we may put in polyairgs yet?

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Reply By: DCTHS - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:06

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:06
Why not take your combination to a Pedders outlet or equiv and they will give you the expert opinion. As to where to go I have to agree with Roachie and suggest you head over to South Oz. I received an email from Wilpena Pound last night letting me know that the Flinders are looking beautiful and green, the wattle has added to the beauty. The wildflowers apparently should be out during September.
If you need to stick with the east coast, I would suggest you consider the Myall Lakes area.

Good luck

Peter A
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Follow Up By: Shelley - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:15

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:15
Thanks Peter,

I was actually looking at the Great Lakes/Myall Lakes area today on internet.
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Reply By: Member - John (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:15

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:15
Had same problem - had the towbar place make a custom tongue to suit -$80. thought that was cheap.

Also fitted polyairs - work a treat.

John
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:30

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:30
Campomatic owners ...... unite ! Mine has a tiny slope down while hitched to the Jack... not an issue.....re yours and the need to raise the towbar.... it might be a real bugger if you can't open the rear door/tailgate when the Campo is still hitched - wouldn't want to take the trailer off, just to get a door open - maybe see if you can live with it as is ?
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Reply By: Steve - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:37

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:37
Shelley, South West Rocks (next to the lighthouse) and adjacent Trial Bay are both excellent spots for young uns. If you're in school hols you'll need to be quick. S/W Rocks is in town but on the beach and not noisy if you can get near "the Mast" on the headland. ( ask them to fax you a plan of the site) Trial Bay is a lovely sweeping bay, and safe for kids. Next to the old jail, which gives it an atmosphere the kids'll love. Better to go out of school hols if you feel inclined, because both are popular and more expensive at those times. The Macleay River and estuary/backwaters offer excellent fishing. The beach fishing isn't bad either. Not actually that far north and water won't be as warm as say, Evans head, another nice spot further north. These are not necessarily cheap sites but not robbers either.
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Reply By: Member - Robyn J (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:44

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:44
We changed our springs to raise the vehicle to tow our camper trailer front and back. This raised the car but still not enough so in the end put in polyair bags. This made the car and trailer level and not only that once we did this made hooking up the pain in the ... offroad hitch a lot easier to line up. If you raise the vehicle and put in the bags you may have to adjust the braking bias on the vehicle for correct braking.
Cheers
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Reply By: flappa - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 22:39

Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 22:39
Number of places to look at on the North Coast.

Minnie Waters near Grafton, Pebbly Beach near Coffs.

Both are in Nat Parks and right on the beach.

Sandon River, Brooms Head, Woody Head, Iluka
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Reply By: bware - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 02:22

Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 02:22
Hi Shelley,
In regards to the camping; at that time of year the water is pretty cool all the way up the coast for swimming (unless you're from tassie, then you'll love it!). So travelling further isn't necessarily better. Are your kids good swimmers or would you prefer tranquil waters? There's plenty of camping on the East Coast if you include open surf beaches (dangerous if not experienced surfers etc). But assuming you would like estuaries and sheltered beaches looking North of the Central Coast, the first place you would come across is Port Stephens: absolutely beautiful! But my best advice is to define your needs; ie safe water, close ammenities, etc. Basically what would make it ideal.Then you do the research on possible destinations (time-consuming but well worth the effort to eliminate the not perfect). Get yourself a short-list then abandon all the logical thinking and go for the one that 'feels right'. It's worked for my wife and I every time (taking in our limits like a 3 year old, sometimes no 4wd and limited storage etc). The best adventures arise spontaniously from this! I have spent my life camping in this area so if you want more info just let me know.
Brian
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Reply By: Dan 1 - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 12:24

Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 12:24
If you decide to leave it as is, make certain that the jockey wheel has enough clearance when you wish to unhitch the camper whilst it and the vehicle are fully loaded. my sturt camper was fine when I first picked it up, but when loaded for a trip I couldn't swing down the jockey wheel. Had to dig out a hole each time until I flipped the gooseneck.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 22:51

Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 22:51
Those fixed swing down jockey wheels are pain in the ar*e
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Reply By: Steve - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 21:23

Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 21:23
First thing you do is take it on a trip !!!....and if you have any serious problems...well then you know what the problem is..!!! As of now you have no problem, you haven't even turned a wheel with the combo...so really you only imagine you have a problem ?

Get real...get going !!! its not all that difficult !!
steve
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