PTO Winch
Submitted: Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 18:45
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ThePunter
Last weekend we went away and a mate used his PTO winch to drag me part of the way up a
hill until it broke. The shear pin let go but then we could not get the two parts back together.
I have heard that the Army use some sort of clutch arrangement, I think to replace the shear pin.
Has anybody heard of this arrangement and, if so, where would you get one.
Reply By: Exploder - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:55
Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 19:55
Interesting how it is called a shear pin, and it did just that Shear.
Not helping your question, but what exactly is a PTO winch, are these the ones that are driven of the engine throu an output shaft from the transfer case thus PTO or am I thinking of something else.
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Follow Up By: kev.h - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:21
Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:21
yep- driven from the power take off on the side of the gearbox
Kev
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Follow Up By: ThePunter - Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:40
Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 20:40
As I understand it, the shear pin is normally made of brass and would break (shear) before metal thus protecting the winch as was the case when winching my heavy 100 Series Cruise. I believe that the clutch arrangement would do much the same thing, by slipping, instead of breaking.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 22:02
Thursday, Aug 11, 2005 at 22:02
Never seen a clutch mecanism on a PTO, but the shear pin is usually hard to get at and is also usually mild steel 3/16 diameter. As you would know, a 4 litre motor infront of a reduction gearbox will pull more than 8000lbs....so the best way to use a pto is with a snatch block. I broke my shear pin by not winching with the
wheels turning, when i got to
the rock step, my front
wheels tried to push it uphill too.....so as you can see, the PTO is an excellent winch but needs to be understood....where an electric will stall...a pto will break the shear pin.
Andrew
(ps i was winching up where my cruiser is in the piccy)
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Reply By: Rod W - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:34
Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:34
No! But the cruiser ute (FJ45) I had back when Jesus was a boy came with a PTO winch, which I really put to test with sunk to the chassis bogs in the swamps around
Darwin and the topend. The previous owner replaced the shear pin with a high tensile bolt. Apart from breaking the cable a couple of times nothing else ever failed.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:22
Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:22
That is like replacing fuse wire with a 4" nail
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:24
Friday, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:24
Right-on, but it worked.
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 10:57
Monday, Aug 15, 2005 at 10:57
Often the copper shear pin is weakened over time & will break no where near it's full rated capacity. Pays to replace it after repeated heavy use before it lets go. If it's hard to knock out then it's already bent. Early PTO
winches had smaller diameter shear pins that failed prematurely. These could be drilled out & the bigger ones used.
I have seen a custom built arrangement that after the pin sheared, a collar was slid over a spline allowing the winch to be backed off or still used with caution to get him out of trouble.
Cheers Craig...........
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